Talk:List of historic sites of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Inclusion criteria? Sources?

Why is it that the Cardston Alberta Temple, a National Historic Site of Canada is not listed, but many other, seemingly unimportant buildings are listed? What are the inclusion criteria, and what are the sources? --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 06:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I think it's becuse no one put it there.--ARTEST4ECHO (^talk/_contribs) 16:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Are you familiar with LDS Church history? If you are I would think you'd have any easy time understanding that many of these sites are very important to church history, if not, well they are very important to church history. The visitors' centers at the Washington DC, New Zealand, and Mexico City Temples aren't necessarily "historic sites" though, and might not meet the criteria for inclusion in the list. Also why the heck is Chesterfield, Idaho listed? I understand that Mormons settled it, and that there are historic buildings in town, but the same could be said for many towns in Idaho and Arizona (Las Vegas could even fit into that category), and for almost every city in Utah. -Mangoman88 (talk) 07:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

So we arrive back at the original question. What should be the inclusion criteria for this article? "Historic" according to general LDS Church history? Only those listed by some particular index (such as national historic sites)? ...comments? ~BFizz 15:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, you could start with the Mormon Historic Sites Foundation's Mormon Historic Sites Registry.-- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 22:16, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Mormon Trail Center needs to be merged into Martin's Cove. The center as described is located there, not to be confused with one at Winter Quarters, Nebraska. Samuelsenwd (talk) 01:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm back 3 years later and NOTHING has changed. Perhaps this page should have been deleted back then. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 19:15, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Organization

In looking at the associated template, I came to this page and noticed there's some definite issues with organization and with inclusion. First, for organization, using the city/town name is problematic because not all sites are necessarily located in a specific town. For instance, under "Palmyra" (which directs to Palmyra (town), New York, we have the Smith Family Farm, the Book of Mormon Publication Site, Hill Cumorah Visitor Center, and the Sacred Grove, while the Peter Whitmer Farm is in the "other" section of Northeast US. Of those four, only the Smith Family Farm and Sacred Grove are located (partially) in the town of Palmyra. The Book of Mormon Publication Site is located in the village of Palmyra. The Hill Cumorah is located entirely in the town of Manchester. I would simply group all the New York sites together under "New York" since there is only one other significant one, that being the Peter Whitmer farm. The same is true for the Ohio and Illinois sites. The John Johnson Farm is only about 30 miles from Kirtland in Ohio, and Carthage Jail is not far from Nauvoo so having them in the "other" section for their respective region is somewhat misleading since they're so close and are often promoted and visited in tandem with the other sites in their region.

I do think a name change is in order for both this page and the template. Instead of "historic sites" it should be "attractions" or "significant sites" or something along those lines. Basically, it seems most of these things are attractions that both members and the public can visit. Many of them are historic in nature, but not all of them are. The Washington DC Visitor Center, for instance, is not what anyone would consider a historic attraction. Conversely, the Cardston Alberta Temple is historic, but isn't an attraction that the public can tour, nor is there a visitor center that I'm aware of. That said, I'm not sure the Granite Mountain Vault should be included unless there are tours available or is otherwise open to visitors. The explanation for the list article can be something to the effect of "visitor attractions owned by or otherwise associated with (could also use "otherwise significant to") The Church of Jesus Christ..." which allows for things like the Kirtland Temple and Red Brick Store to be included. If this is going to stay at "historic sites" then there needs to be some kind of criteria of what constitutes a "historic" site. --JonRidinger (talk) 06:57, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Title capitalization

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