Talk:List of Latin phrases (V)

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Amusing Vandalism[edit]

Removed the following: veni, vidi et capiebar ad anum, "I came, I saw and I endured a rear assault", Said by Hannibal, according to Carthaginian history, right after crossing the Alps where he was taken by surprise by the army of Fabius Maximus. Among other problems, it's bad Latin - it would indicate Hannibal pulled Fabius to his ass. -LlywelynII (talk) 06:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wot about "Vale" ?[edit]

It's only a single word, which is technically a phrase:

" Vale, a Latin word meaning farewell or goodbye to a recently deceased person." Old_Wombat (talk) 11:11, 9 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vox Cathedra/In Voce Cathedra[edit]

I came looking for a rather archaic phrase I hard as a boy, but found nothing here or in a reasonable amount of web searching. I'm a bit hemmed in by not being a true reader of Latin so much as familiar with the typical phrases that migrated into English. I grew up learning the phrase vox cathedra (lit. "church voice") or perhaps in voce cathedra as meaning "in a whisper (a quiet voice suitable for a church)". Vox cathedra doesn't turn up anything in a search except for people conflating it with ex cathedra. In voce cathedra turns up a little more, but only in fully Latin documents. Can anyone else refute or confirm that 1) the phrase is valid Latin, and 2) they have similarly seen some form of the phrase in print in English with the above usage? -- 66.193.122.3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid this isn't going to help, but I've never heard either phrase. Cathedra does not mean "church", and IMO both phrases are ungrammatical Latin, not unlike Romanes eunt domus. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:10, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Verbums', or Verbum's.[edit]

   Sad that neither of these single-word formulations seems to be sufficiently long....
--Jerzy•t 11:42, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand; can you elaborate or rephrase? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:18, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
   It pretty much amounts to a more-private-than-i-hoped joke, admittedly on what amounts to company time. Verbum sap. is not self-referential, bcz it's a word-and-a-half. I'm playfully claiming that either "verbums'" or "verbum's." (pronounced identically, with the S soft -- S-like, not Z-like) has a legitimate claim to be a single verbum; they'd be regarded as unacceptable. A little more defensibly, i'm pointing out that no one who listens to themself when they're saying "verbum sap." really believes that a single word suffices... unless they doubt the wisdom of their listeners.
--Jerzy•t 03:01, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Verbatim et litteratim?[edit]

   None of my dictionaries recognizes "litteratim", and all include "literatim". The French "litterateur" is in at least several of them, and at least one has "litterae humaniores" -- "more humane letters", i.e. the humanities (which BTW i've never heard explicitly defined, and indeed "the branches of learning having primarily a cultural character" goes down reasonably well).
   One of my first thots was that Middle Latin might have gotten looser than SPQR-Latin abt double letters, but the dict in my lap does say "ML, from L littera" (altho i've always assumed that the one- and 3-word versions both date from identifiably classical scribes, so i must disavow insight). (Possibly the editor responsible knows too much about the Latin language to recall, or to be comfortable with, modern scholarly practice??)
   I'm changing the entry to single t, per the dicts & the examples i learned from (Turabian?), tho i urge specialists to consider what linguistics, lexicography, and usage (modern, i suppose, more importantly than classical) really show us.
--Jerzy•t 03:01, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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In quotes Roman writer Persius used VINT QUI PATUIR ENDURE TO CONQUER[edit]

Not Persius I belive it was Greek LeaderPericles who first said ENDURE AND CONQUER.THANKSEddson storms (talk) 23:09, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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