Talk:List of DNA-tested mummies

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Mummies?[edit]

I'm guessing that Tzar Nicholas II of Russia and Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna don't really qualify as mummies; is there a better article for this information? If there were some DYS markers it might fit in List of genetic results derived from historical figures, but it feels quite out of place here. Ziggurat 02:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed; the information you've specified would fit better in the alternate article you mention. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:07, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Move completed. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 23:13, 19 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The other article is for genetic results that are derived from someone by testing their descendants. This article is for actual remains that are tested. According to the article Mummy, "A mummy is a corpse whose skin and dried flesh have been preserved by either intentional or accidental exposure to chemicals, extreme cold or dryness, or airlessness." I think Nicholas and Alexandra fit this definition. If not, we can rename this article to "List of DNA tested mummies and corpses". The information should be moved back here. -- Reinyday, 04:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's nothing in that definition that fits bodies buried under railway tracks, and there's nothing in the title or introduction of the other article that implies it is specifically for results tested from descendants. All the tests here are for real mummies, Egyptian or naturally preserved, and all of the tests in the other article refer to historical figures (hence the title), so it seems like a much better idea to put it there.Ziggurat 04:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As it appears I've done enough damage already, I leave it to the two of you to decide upon and implement any further changes. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 12:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

None of us should be the final arbiter of this stuff; I'm sure we can work something out. That's what talk pages are for! Ziggurat 18:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid any confusion, there is now a List of DNA tested historical figures. — Reinyday, 03:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Egyptian mtDNA[edit]

I am wondering why the date is not BC/BCE or AD/CE and instead "Date Lived/Years Ago" Wouldn't that mean that this had to be updated annually? I know the year may be approximate, but it's confusing not to use a specific date. I'm wondering what the reasoning is on that or if I am misunderstanding that label?

What's with the lack of egyptian mummy mtDNA? I looked around on the web for it and found little information and a couple of fragments. It seems that there is some sort of political thing there. Sandwich Eater 19:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am by no means an expert on this subject, but it is my understanding that archeology is strictly regulated in Egypt by the Egyptian government (the Supreme Council of Antiquities) and that they have not allowed a lot of DNA testing. This article about the had me totally floored: King Tut tut tut. — Reinyday, 03:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
- I also believe that there's something political there. Egyptian government withdrew permission to get DNA sample of the Egyptian mummies, because of "national security", and Zahi Hawass (the so-called Egyptologist) added that DNA testing is no use at all. (reference: [1]) Chakazul (talk) 19:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Latest studies missing[edit]

Why haven't these mummies been added to the list? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5459999/