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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 September 2020 and 11 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kswizzy42.

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Essenes?[edit]

Uh, Essenes were Jewish, so they were probably not worshipping Liber Pater or celebrating the Liberalia. From where is this info coming? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.193.219 (talk) 20:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same comment/question. Even if the Essenes were not in the Pharisaic tradition, on which modern practice is based, there is absolutely no basis even for speculating that the Essenes were so heterodox that they could have countenanced participation in this sort of bacchanal. -- Bob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.156.104.54 (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, the paragraph following the one with references to the Essenes appears to include a lot of what is either incorrect information or original research. (The remedy for both is citation.) For example, there is no tradition of Pelasgians founding Rome. The tradition was that Rome was founded by Aeneas and a remnant of Troy. Any connection drawn between Troy and the Pelasgians (the pre-Hellenic inhabitants of the Greek peninsula) is pure speculation. The only demonstrable simililarity is that we can't reliably connect either the Trojans or the Pelasgians to any better-known historical groups. (Even if one accepts Trojans < Tyrrhenians and Tyrrhenians > Etruscans, which can't be proven, there is nothing to show Pelasgians > Tyrrhenians.) Nor is there any basis for seeing a connection to the Greek "Argos" simply on the basis of the similarity of the sounds of words. The reality is that Latin is no more closely related to Greek than it is to English or German, and it is only the later Roman religious traditions that show borrowing from Greek traditions. -- Bob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.156.104.54 (talk) 16:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing-source attribution badly needed[edit]

This page is filled with factual and conceptual errors. It lacks proper citations and attributions which would make it possible to distinguish facts from opinions. The page should simply direct back to Liber (Pater) until the facts that have to do exclusively with Liberalia are attributed and cited properly.Jasmith.sdsu (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicated topic, needs merging. Help?[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

No objection to merge. Please go ahead, Haploidavey, and if you need any assistance, just let me know. Felix QW (talk) 15:12, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article was assigned to a student editor (see above), and should not have been published without prior scrutiny from the course supervisor, or else from WikEd. Somehow or other, a second article on the same topic was generated: Roman Festival Liberalia. Neither article is well-written or well-sourced. I'm willing to rewrite. For consistency across the Roman Festival articles, the title should be "Liberalia". I have problems using Wikipedia templates, so haven't used the recommended "merge" templates. Haploidavey (talk) 07:20, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Y Merger complete. Joyous! | Talk 02:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed the "merge," although it was honestly more of a redirect, since the important information was already here. The version of Roman Festival Liberalia before I changed the source article to a redirect is here, in case anyone wants to bring anything else over. Courtesy ping for @Haploidavey:, in case you want to look this over. I've taken care of the merge templates, so you should be good to adjust the article as needed. Joyous! | Talk 02:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Joyous!:, many thanks for all that. Haploidavey (talk) 07:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]