Talk:LGBT history in China

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Deletion of picture[edit]

I deleted a photo of Taiwanese LGBT activists. There is already a separate page on LGBT rights in Taiwan, and it does not belong on this article. 163.29.35.147 (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect information about Ruan Ji and Shan Tao[edit]

The part of this page that talks about Ruan Ji and Shan Tao is incorrect. The paragraph cites pages 68 and 69 of Brent Hirsch's Passions of the Cut Sleeve: The Male Homosexual Tradition in China, but reading those pages it's obvious that the two lovers known for their sexual prowess were Ruan Ji and Xi Kang. Shan Tao was the husband of Lady Han, who spied on Ruan Ji and Xi Kang having sex and then told Shan Tao that he only compares to them on an intellectual level. 131.247.152.159 (talk) 04:49, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Request for criticisms and comments on rough draft for relevant article[edit]

Greetings everyone. I am an undergraduate student who's new to writing on Wikipedia. I recently completed my first rough draft for my upcoming Wikipedia article on LGBT History in East Asia. I was hoping for any willing readers to provide feedback and criticisms for me so I can make adequate preparations for the final, polished product. My rough draft can be found in my sandbox.

To all willing readers and reviewers, I truly appreciate your time and critiques.

Pcgeek1 (talk) 03:09, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pcgeek1. Because Wikipedia discourages the creation of content forks, I strongly suggest the content in your sandbox not be used to create a new article for the world region of East Asia, but instead be distributed amongst this article, Homosexuality in Japan, and LGBT history in South Korea. A separate article has a high probability of being merged. -Crossroads- (talk) 03:24, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Crossroads, Pcgeek1 asked me to take a look at this. Offhand I do think that there is merit in having a larger page that discusses LGBT history in East Asia (or Asia as a whole), which would be in keeping with articles such as Digital divide by country. Pages like this give a general overview per country and can help show broad similarities prior to giving a general synopsis of the topic by country. There's a similar article to this when it comes to LGBT rights by country or territory (which covers rights and not history per se), so it's not a content fork to have a "by country" or "by area" type of article. If they were to try to create an article on the LGBT history X district of Japan, then that would likely be an unwarranted content fork unless there is a huge amount of coverage to show where the district's history is especially notable to where it would be along the lines of say, LGBT history in Chinatown, San Francisco.
Now that said, here are my recommendations for the page:
  1. This needs more sourcing to back up the claims. The topic of LGBT history in Asia is notable, so what's needed here is to have sourcing that explicitly states the claims in the article.
  2. This could likely be expanded to include all of Asia rather than just East Asia. Since this would only have a general, brief synopsis of each country, it wouldn't be that much of an overwhelming list since it should only be 1-2 paragraphs max for each section for the most part. Just having it for East Asia is fine, but it should have information about all of the countries that are considered to be East Asian - so this needs to have information on say, Mongolia and Vietnam as well.
  3. The section on Korea should have information on both South and North Korea in separate sections, as at some point a single country divided into two separate ones. As such, there may be LGBT history that is unique to each country, as the government and non-LGBT culture for each country is different in their own ways.
  4. Make sure to avoid original research - we can only summarize what has been explicitly stated in the source material. This means that if none of the sources compare or contrast any given countries, we cannot have a compare/contrast in the article. Definitely look over articles like LGBT rights in the Americas or LGBT in the Middle East to see how they're set up - it's not exactly the same but this can give you a good idea of how to phrase things.
Let me know if you have any questions! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:31, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Pcgeek1 and Shalor (Wiki Ed) (no need to ping me if you reply), I see merit in Crossroads's proposal to distribute the material so that it's covered in this article, Homosexuality in Japan, and LGBT history in South Korea. I don't see that another article is necessary. That stated, if created and it doesn't really benefit readers as a standalone article, we could then merge the material. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 10:04, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One source for Ancient China section[edit]

I added the template One Source for the Ancient China section, since almost every citation in it is to Passions of the Cut Sleeve. 24.196.131.248 (talk) 16:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move from Transgender in China[edit]

Kamako (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Gender Welfare and Poverty[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 31 August 2023 and 9 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Haiyili222 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Dandelion1984, Willa Wei.

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