Talk:Korean drama/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Jay2kx (talk · contribs) 15:49, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

Some of the images need better arrangement. (See: Wikipedia:Picture tutorial)

Move any production related images within the production section
Not sure what you mean by this? Which images are not there or should be there? There is only one production related image, the site of the MBC Dramia, and that's already there. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 07:41, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Co-aligning some of the actors
I don't think this is necessary, since the images are not related in a way they would belong closely together. They are just illustrations of some of the actors mentioned. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 07:41, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Things to add if it hasn't already

~~Theme and background music~~
Rating system
I'll see what I can find. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 07:41, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see if anything else needs improvement. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 15:49, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jay2kx: What do you mean by Theme and background music? There is a section on music. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 16:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Teemeah: Oops, sorry! I don't know why I wrote that when I saw that section already. Did you find any information about the background music being played with traditional instruments? I remember Yi San and The Slave Hunters used a lot of them. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 16:55, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think it is always newly composed by respective composers they hire for these series. I'm not sure what general information could be found (especially in English), since people usually don't care much for the instrumental, the OST songs are more popular. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 07:32, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can't think of nothing else and we need more feedback to be sure. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 14:41, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jay2kx: I will reflect at the other comments next week, this weekend was hectic IRL. Thank you for your review! Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 14:52, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Teemeah: Alright, and I think the weekend is hectic for everybody. You're welcome! ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 16:10, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jay2kx: Please see my comments above. I added the ratings system. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Teemeah: Well, nevermind the images then. Try to get more feedback from others. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 00:18, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Teemeah: There's one thing that came to mind about Korean dramas and that is censorship. Did you see anything information about that? For example, knives get blurred out but swords (short swords) don't. It seems to vary between tv channels. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 15:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be a topic to be discussed in Censorship in South Korea. There is really not a lot we can write about in the drama article that woudldn't be relevant to any other TV program, too. I had the same issue with the Ratings, it's not specific to dramas, but general to all TV programs. Unless we are aiming at FA, I don't think these parts are vital to the article. By the way I haven't seen any K-dramas with knives or blood censored out. They usually get a higher rating (15 or 19). I never saw any blurred objects in Tv series. Even the violent ones went out with kniving people and heavy drinking, gambling and smoking scenes, and cursewords; for example Triangle was such a series. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 18:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks for the reply. Censorship popped up and I had to ask. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 20:39, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Query[edit]

Jaewon, where does this review stand? It's been nearly three weeks since the most recent post here. How does the article stand with regard to the good article criteria, such as well written, verifiable, no original research, broad in its coverage, neutral, stable, and illustrated (if possible) with images? I don't see any specific mention of the bulk of these criteria above, and reviews are supposed to judge according to them. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:33, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset: We were waiting for somebody with more experience to review but I guess people are too busy. Can you help or know somebody who can? ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 15:06, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jaewon, the usual expectation is that the reviewer who signs up is the one who will cover everything—it's basically a solo review with the possibility of comments by others—but I see this is your first review and imagine you didn't know what you were getting into. Perhaps the best thing is to put this up for a second opinion, and note that it really needs someone else to finish off the review at this point. Please let me know if you'd like me to set it up. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BlueMoonset, you can set it up. ☴ Jaewon [Talk] 16:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:09, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It might have better luck just going back in the queue rather than awaiting the 2nd opinion, so doing that. Wizardman 13:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article contradicts itself[edit]

"Love and Ambition (사랑과 야망, Saranggwa yamang), aired on MBC in 1987 is regarded as a milestone of Korean television,[22] having recorded a 78% viewership."

But the article says...

"First Love KBS2 65.8% 20 April 1997" has the highest viewership rating of all time. As does the article.

Please clarify...

Also, in the list only dramas from 1992 forwards are listed, but shouldn't it be from all time, not 1992 forwards? Also, the big list is missing dramas listed in the history section. Anything from the 1980's backwards is missing. --KimYunmi (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@KimYunmi: the article tells you exactly that The list was compiled from data by AGB Nielsen Media Research, based on the episode of the highest viewership since 1992, when AGB Nielsen entered the Korean market. Before that, we don't have viewership data for every program. Some sources list one-off viewership ratings (possibly estimates) of some famous dramas, but nothing like a comprehensive database exists before 1992 when the first company actually specialising in measuring viewership entered Korea. It's not possible to place Love and Ambition, or anything from th 80s and before on that list, since it is not an AGB Nielsen Media rating. You may well be aware that different agencies measure viewership differently. The article explicitely states that the list of highest rated dramas is based on AGB Nielsen Media data. Thus we cannot go beyond 1992. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:53, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]