Talk:Knockout

Cause of KO

How are Knockouts achieved? Is it because of the violent and fast /rotating motion of the head? for example like when amir khan got knocked down by the clobian ko king brediss prescott --Schandi 14:51, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

As far as I can tell from the Concussion article, it's trauma caused by the brain bouncing against the skull. --Mule Man 00:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

From what I've been told by my boxing coach there is an explanation for the "classic" K.O. - the one when a fighter despite not having sustained much damage and apparently being at least partially conscious and willing to continue to fight just cannot stand up, is "drunken dancing" around the ring and seems to have completely lost his balance. The reason is that strikes to the chin are transfered through the lower jaw to the internal ear and labyrinth (the balance apparatus) thus disrupting its function. (Unregistered user) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.10.91.183 (talk) 21:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

This article compares the interruption of blood flow to the brain to a stroke. This is not medically correct. A stroke is a vascular interruption *within* the brain. An temporary interruption of blood flow *to* the brain is known as "syncope". (Unregistered user)

UFC rules

I removed the sentence about UFC rules because it states the "intelligent defense" rule, but that rule is not found in the page cited. Also, since UFC matches are governed by the Unified Mixed MMA rules already mentioned, bringing up UFC rules is a redundant point. hateless 19:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation

There should be a page for knock-out mutant animals, not sure how to make a disambiguation page to build one, someone lend a hand?? Cadmiumcandy 22:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Knockout streaks

Record knockout streaks like the ones held by Wilfredo Gómez and Lamar Clark are often mentioned in widely published media. I believe that a subsection discussing notable ones should be integrated to this article. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

other knockouts

The article focuses on head hit knockouts, but there are more versions. - liver hit (extreme pain incapacitates the fighter after 2 sec) - third knockdown in a round (maybe also second in some full contact sports), example K-1 - inability to defend yourself (technical KO) Lastdingo (talk) 22:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Cotto & Pacquiao pic a knockdown?

The caption of a recently added picture states Cotto is being knocked out, but in that fight he actually wasn't. Cotto was just knocked down a few times. The writing should be changed to "knocked down", am I right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBearPaw (talk • contribs) 20:31, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

"Rocked"

I have heard the term rocked used in a fight to describe someone who has been hurt by punches, but a better synonym for punch drunk - a term seldom used inside the ring compared to other uses - would be 'shot'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.150.54 (talk) 07:48, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Suspended after knockout?

In the "Physical Characteristics" section, I'm seeing this line: "Fighters who lose by knockout (either by ten count or technical) are automatically suspended 30 days, three months if it is the second knockout within three months, or one year if it is the third knockout within one year." This is uncited, and I have a hard time believing it's entirely accurate. That could be a rule within a certain sport (I'm thinking Boxing), or a certain fighting organization, but unless it's a general rule for all combat sports, this needs to be clarified. This also definitely needs a citation, which I'm trying to find. -199.30.197.148 (talk) 16:55, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

All I can find is an article on medical suspensions in the state of Maryland (http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/09/09.14.04.10.htm), and also an article listing all the medical suspensions resulting from the UFC 128 event (http://mmaweekly.com/ufc-128-jon-jones-and-shogun-rua-both-receive-medical-suspensions). These citations are enough to show that these rules are accurate at least in the states of Maryland and New Jersey, but I can't find anything more universal. It would appear that these are general athletic rules that apply to all combat sports, although I can't find a reference that specifically verifies that. -199.30.197.148 (talk) 17:29, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

No apostrophe in plural of T.K.O.

There should be no apostrophe in T.K.O.s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.208.140.226 (talk) 13:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Top 10 Fighters by KO Percentage in MMA

I noticed someone attempted to redact my contribution(s) of Melvin Manhoef and Gilbert Yvel to this list. Gilbert was 22-4 with almost every win coming by KO when he made his Pride debut. I'd say that makes him a former contender and worthy of inclusion. Melvin Manhoef is a notable inclusion as a former Cage Rage champion and Dream Middleweight Grand Prix semifinalist, making him a past contender for the inaugural Dream MW belt. Or is it supposed to be only current champions, interim champs and contenders for exactly the promotions listed? And why list smaller, less notable promotions like Deep and KOTC while excluding larger scale promotions like Dream and WEC? If someone would like to clarify this for me, I would appreciate it. Machine Man (talk) 12:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Addendum: Melvin has the highest KO% I know of. 27/29 is 0.931, or 93.1% of his wins are wins by KO. He has won 63% of his fights total by KO but I have no idea why anyone would use that number as a percentage. I interpret the question to be "Of the fights someone wins, what percentage of those are by KO?" If someone has a cogent argument against this, I'd like to hear it. Also, Cain has won 11/13 by KO or TKO, which is 84%, not 78%. Machine Man (talk) 02:58, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

TKO and 10-count

From the technical knockout section:

A technical knockout (TKO or T.K.O.) is declared when the referee or official ring physician decide that a fighter cannot safely continue the match. In boxing, this can happen if the fighter fails the 10 count

Isn't that a normal knockout? Shouldn't this read more like "even if the fighter answers the 10-count"? I.e., he can be knocked down, get up in time, but then evaluated and the physician/referee ends the fight in a TKO (as in a standing eight count). 72.200.151.13 (talk) 17:39, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Lists

There are a lot of reasons that simple lists of records are discouraged anywhere except in Guinness, but perhaps the best one is this: They're primarily interesting to someone who already knows a lot about the subject and wants to know more, not to a beginner.

If someone wants information on "What is a knockout?", they're likely to be interested in the medical explanation - or what it means in boxing - etc. They're not interested in "Who won with 87 knockouts as of 1973, 88 if you count the time his opponent passed out due to low blood sugar?"

I strongly recommend dropping the bottom half in favor of readability, but I personally have no stomach for possibly getting in a prolonged fight with someone who spent three days compiling it and refuses to let go of even one letter. If someone cares enough about the article to do so, I think it would be a worthwhile endeavour. 2001:558:600A:4B:78C0:A7BD:D471:9409 (talk) 20:30, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Most consecutive knockouts in title fights

It's probably the most notable of the "consecutive" records, yet it's conspicuously missing. 2600:387:9:3:0:0:0:AD (talk) 19:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Add a mike tyson knockout for a picture

I think we should add one of Mike Tysons knockouts. He was literally famous for it and had many viscous knockouts in his career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cornersss (talk • contribs) 01:14, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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