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A fact from Keith Hartwig appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 October 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Keith Hartwig overcame an injury that he was told would end his career in high school, and went on to play in the National Football League?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Keith Hartwig.

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GA Review[edit]

Passed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 19:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this one. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:15, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Comments[edit]

I copyedited the article here.
I archived the reference links.
The lead says one season in the NFL, yet it says in the infobox that he was with the Packers in 1978. Maybe clarify.
he recorded no statistics is probably not necessary. Instead, maybe say something like "he recorded no tackles on special teams and no receptions on offense".
Ref spot checks: #4, 8, 11, 14, 20, 23, 25

Looks good, putting on hold. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:42, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: I re-worded the lead to fix your first issue; as for the second, tackles weren't recorded in 1977, so I don't think it'd be appropriate to change to your wording as he could have gotten a tackle, it just wasn't recorded. Any suggestions? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- It is fine as is. Nice work, passing! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:06, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 01:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Keith Hartwig overcame an injury he was told would end his career in high school and being a backup or injured four of his five collegiate seasons to play in the National Football League?~~ Source: Arizona Daily Star and Tucson Daily Citizen + Pro-Football-Reference.com
- ALT1: ... that Keith Hartwig overcame an injury he was told would end his career in high school and went on to play in the National Football League?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Polícia de Segurança Pública (football)

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:48, 22 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Keith Hartwig; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Hook is poorly worded and lengthy.

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: Missing QPQ. To fix the hook issue, I'd remove "and being a backup or injured four of his five collegiate seasons", but I'm open to other ways to improve the wording. Maybe "... that Keith Hartwig overcame an injury he was told would end his career and went on to play in the National Football League?". ––FormalDude (talk) 08:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BeanieFan11. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:23, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Will try to work on this tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:15, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @FormalDude: QPQ done. I would be fine with your ALT suggestion but maybe change it a little to "... that Keith Hartwig overcame an injury he was told would end his career in high school and went on to play in the National Football League" - I think it a bit more interesting that his career was supposed to be over in high school but he still made it to the NFL. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - ALT1 approved. ––FormalDude (talk) 22:57, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]