Talk:Julius Bassianus

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It is most likey that Julius was an Aramaen rather than an Arabian. The "Arab" identiy had not been invented back then. It is a modern construct. There were Nabatean Arabian tribes further down South, but the Syrians at the time were Phoenicians on the Coast and Aramaens in the hinterland. All probably speaking Aramaic unless displaced by Greek in the large cities. My vote is for Aramaen speaking Aramaic, Greek, and Latin in the city of Homs.Godspeed John Glenn! Will 14:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article Royal_Family_of_Emesa which has more detail that this one confirms the Aramaic nature of the Royal family. The author of this bio article just conflated the modern Arab construct which is a 20th century construct with past history. I will make the changes to harmonize the two articles.Godspeed John Glenn! Will 14:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Everything you said was wrong. Arabs had lived in Syria since the 9th century BC and lived near Emesa in particular starting from the 8th century BC up until Muslim conquests, where a large portion of its population were still Arab. The links you direct to show clear academic consensus on this topic. It is you who are unaware of what 'Arab' means, and I'm not surprised you have a history of admin sanctioned bans on your account. Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 10:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arab descent[edit]

In this edit, Will changed "Arab" to something else while keeping the same reference. You cannot do that unless you actually checked the reference and read that it did not say "Arab". /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a reasonable point, Pieter. I think you should follow your own logic and restore this article,[1] to the cited source.[2] Otherwise it's just blatant hypocrisy. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 11:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date[edit]

The article begins by saying that Julius Bassianus was born 'in the second half of the 2nd century', but the article about his elder daughter Julia Maesa states that she was born 'before 160'. This sounds biologically improbable. If the date of Julia Maesa's birth is correct, Julius Bassianus must have been born during the 140s or earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.65.236 (talk) 20:52, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. I checked my sources and none mention a birth date. Maybe it was a guess by the person who wrote it? I will check other sources to find a better estimate. Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 03:10, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add image[edit]

Hi. There is a bust of him at the Villa Borghese. I don't know how images work on wikipedia, but can someone take an allowed picture of him and place it? It's an amazing Indian style bust with a lot of detail. Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 03:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]