Talk:Jud Süß

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Jud Süß has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
November 14, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
December 4, 2011	Peer review	Reviewed
January 1, 2012	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
July 3, 2012	Peer review	Reviewed
Current status: Good article

Untitled[edit]

After disambiguation, the history is now at [1]. Inwind (talk) 11:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC) I was given a message that my talk on jud sus was too personal and it was removed. I read the rules how could it be too personal? Well I'll start agains. the article accurate .the explanation of the story outline was rigth on the dot. Is this unpersonal enough? mrthinky may 19 2010Mrthinky (talk) 22:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

available online[edit]

The movie is available here at the internet archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/1940-Jud-Suess

But is it really public domain? if not, the link shouldn't appear in the main article. --Tcheh (talk) 14:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not available there anymore. --Pseudo-Richard (talk) 07:04, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As of May, 2011, it's available on YouTube with English subtitles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIvaBOxHDj0&bpctr=1361219757). Is there a problem with adding this to the external links in the article? I'm not an expert on the relevant policies... Eleuther (talk) 20:31, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jud Süß (1940 film)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ankitbhatt (talk · contribs) 13:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Well, the only thing I thought of after reading this article is WOW. I mean, this article is fabulous. This review has very little to talk about, as the article is near-perfect for GA and requires nothing extra in terms of prose, grammar and verification.

There are only two problems that I can see in this article, and one of them is significant. The first, the article is on a touch and controversial subject related to Nazi propaganda, and hence I am surprised to see the article so well-intact. While I am not German and hence not familiar to in-depth Nazi history, I am well aware of the effect of Hitler's name on Jews even today. Hence, the issue of neutrality automatically comes. While we may not be able to do much, the article seems to have a slight bend towards excessive anti-Nazi feelings. While such feelings are justified in life, Wikipedia is strictly neutral. Hence, this is a problem.

The second is regarding images. I don't understand why all the images are at the right. It is giving the article a weird look, and the presence of the first photo just below the infobox is disconcerting. I suggest you do this:-

For the cast members, apply a multiple image template. For example, I suggest this:-

Dora Gerson

Heinrich George

You can continue for others. However, DO NOT use the Soderbaum image as it has a copyright tag, and hence is strictly ineligible for a GA article.

Delete the image regarding the execution of Oppenheimer. It's not necessary.

Apply alternating image distribution upon all the photos except the cast ones, which you should put in the multiple image template.

In view of such minor changes, I am putting this article on hold for a week. I hope you can quickly fix the matters up. Looking forward to welcoming a new GA into WP:Film. Cheers! AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 13:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well done for such prompt changes. i made a few minor corrections. In view of all this, I think I will pass this article. Congratulations! Keep up the great work, and hope to see you succeed in many other efforts for GA-promotion. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 16:47, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Response: Thank you for taking the time to review the article and thank you for the good words of praise and encouragement. --Pseudo-Richard (talk) 16:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citation formats for multiple pages from the same source[edit]

It seems that there are two different ways of citing multiple pages in Wikipedia. The "ibid", "op. cit.", "loc cit." convention seems to be discouraged. Until recently, I have usually created a separate citation for each page or set of pages using the "page" or "pages" parameters of the {{cite}} template. However, I recently discovered the {{rp}} template which allows there to be only one citation for each source with the different page numbers provided in-line. This article currently uses both approaches and I would like to pick a single approach and make it consistent for all citations but I wanted to ask for suggestions on which one is preferred. --Pseudo-Richard (talk) 17:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lida Baarova[edit]

In article is missing that actress Lida Baarova helped arrange meeting Goebles and Harlan. She told in czech newspaper Lidove Noviny. "Ten film byl opravdu strašný, ale tehdy jsem si tu hrůzu neuvědomila." Zdroj: http://www.lidovky.cz/lida-baarova-zid-suss-a-vycitky-herecky-d96-/lide.aspx?c=A110712_211342_lide_mpr in Czech. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.9.6 (talk) 18:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

According to the article, the pronunciation of the German title of the film is [juːd sys]. However, I believe this is inaccurate. Word-final "d" in German is pronounced [t] due to terminal devoicing, and initial "s" is pronounced [z]. The correct pronunciation should therefore be [juːt zys].

AviJacobson (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 May 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jud Süß (1940 film) → Jud Süß
Jud Süß → Jud Süß (disambiguation)

– Clear primary topic. b uidhe 22:02, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

When I search "Jud Süß" on Google, all but one of the first ten results is about the 1940 film. Also, if you look at pageviews:

1940 film: 6,460 pageviews
- 1934 film: 945 pageviews
- 1925 novel: 795 pageviews
- 2010 film, about the 1940 film: 626 pageviews (and arguably this is a partial title match)
- 1827 novel: 204 pageviews
These total less than half the views of the 1940 film
Joseph Süß Oppenheimer, the model for all of these, is a partial title match, and still has much less views than the 1940 film. b uidhe 22:02, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per norms ~Amkgp ✉ 05:27, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:36, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support primary topic argument per enwiki pageviews. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

An RfC of interest[edit]

An RfC of possible interest to the editors of this article can be found here.

Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:01, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]