Talk:John Holt (publisher)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Vacant0 (talk · contribs) 23:40, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi! I saw this article on the GAN backlog. I will start the review tomorrow. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments

General

• Would prefer to change the place of birth in the infobox to Williamsburg, Virginia, British America – it is more precise.

 Done

• Change the occupation to {{hlist|Printer|postmaster}}, change the "Known for" to just "Journalism".

 Done

• Utilize the {{marriage}} template in the infobox.

 Done

• Change the link for Virginia to Colony of Virginia in the first sentence of the "Early life" section.

 Done

• A point is missing at the end of the "In 1755 Thomas Clap, President of Yale College, invited Benjamin Franklin to set up a printing press in New Haven, Connecticut. Benjamin Mecom, Clap's nephew, was to operate the press to publish the paper" sentence.

 Done

• Would prefer merging "Family", "Later life and death", and "Societies and churches" sections into a new section called "Personal life and death".

 Done

Images

• All are alright.

Sources

• Source in the infobox can be removed per MOS:INFOBOXREF, it is stated down below in the text.

 Done

• "Holt learned that Parker would not resume the New-York Gazette and Weekly Post-Boy, so he continued the newspaper using the title until October 9, 1766 (no. 1240)." – unsourced.

 Done

• Bibliography is alright, would prefer to make them all into {{sfn}}'s though.

 Done

@Vacant0: Not sure what you mean on this one. I use the "sfn" template for the inline references. I have the Harv Error tool installed on all 3 of my PCs and none show any Harv Errors. It would be automatic to show up if any of the "sfn" templates were not matched up correctly with the sources. Everything shows correctly to me.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Three {{cite web}} templates and one {{cite news}} template are located out of the Bibliography. As far as I'm aware, they should be moved to the Bibliography section. Vacant0 (talk) 21:28, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Vacant0: I have done over 500 Did You Know articles and over 190 Good Articles and in my 14 years with Wikipedia that has never been brought up by anyone else. I don't understand that a "website" or "cite news" should be in a "sfn" as all "sfns" have a page number of the book. A Website or newspaper clip doesn't have a page number. It just doesn't make sense to me to include "cite web" or "cite news" into the Bibliography. In my 14 years in writing up articles no other editor has complained about how I reference the websites or newspaper clips (thousands done). I prefer to stick with what I have - thank you very much. To me it makes more sense and is logical.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Coldwell: The article itself looks good, it meets most of the GA criteria. I will put it on hold until these issues get fixed, after which I will promote it to GA. Cheers, --Vacant0 (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Vacant0: Thanks for review. Will get started on it. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Vacant0: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Promoting to GA. The issue with four cite templates is optional. Vacant0 (talk) 21:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Vacant0: That makes 199 Good Articles. One more to go to get my goal.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

I wish you luck, Doug. Vacant0 (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)