Talk:Jaegwon Kim

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Jaegwon Kim article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Biography: Science and Academia

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the science and academia work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

United States: Asian Americans Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Asian Americans (assessed as Low-importance).

Philosophy: Philosophers / Mind Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of content related to philosophy on Wikipedia. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the general discussion about philosophy content on Wikipedia.PhilosophyWikipedia:WikiProject PhilosophyTemplate:WikiProject PhilosophyPhilosophy articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Associated task forces:
/
	Philosophers
	Philosophy of mind

Korea Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Korea, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to Korea. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how use this banner, please refer to the documentation.KoreaWikipedia:WikiProject KoreaTemplate:WikiProject KoreaKorea-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

It is requested that an image or photograph be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.

Wikipedians in the following regions may be able to help:
	Korea

The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Expansion and clean up[edit]

I recently added some stuff and cleaned the article up a bit. However, it can still use some clean up and expansion:

There is definitely more to add to the "Work" section. There's some info already about his philosophy of mind and events, but he has other work too that should be highlighted.
I think that the section on events should be cleaned up and have references to his work as well. (Just saying where he states certain views would be good.)
Adding more of his major publications would be good too, especially his major articles.

- Jaymay 05:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Misc edits[edit]

I added a small amount of information to make the entry more acceptable. I didn't start the entry, but I had just come looking for info about Kim.--KWW

Removed a publication "Mental Causation" (this presumably is John Heil's book which someone mistook for a non-existent book by JK).--Thinkingthing 00:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed description of Kim as an American philosopher. Although he works in the USA, he is, I believe, Korean. Also removed mention at the beginning of the article of Kim's current position as this is later mentioned in the CV. Added a list of key themes in Kim's work and sketched a developement of Kim's ideas regarding the mind-body problem.--Thinkingthing

He's been an American citizen for many years and has, in fact, lived in the U.S. for far longer than he ever lived in South Korea. I think describing him as an American philosopher is probably correct. -- justinlkim (16 March 2007)

Adding Korean interview question[edit]

On March 4, 2008, Korean newspaper, JoongAng Ilbo interviewed Jaegwon Kim about physicalism, qualia, psychology of human and animals, language and Turing machine. I think the article contains interesting Kim's ideas which are absent in the Wiki article. Though I am not sure how to reference Korean article. How do I do that? --- stampit (18 March, 2008)

section 2.2 - relationship to quantum physics.[edit]

Is it worth mentioning that Kim's basis here isn't actually justified by contemporary science and hasn't been since before his birth? I can appreciate that the philosophy of mind by and large proceeds as if the quantum revolution didn't happen (like, in 1927), but here it really is particularly relevant. 'Which route' an electron is measured to have passed in a standard double-slit experiment with detectors is not physically determined by any known law. Likewise, the function of the ion channels in our physiology (involved in brain function) has to be modeled probabilistically. So Kim isn't entitled to first premise that "every physical event is fully accountable in terms of physical causes". Physics only gives us a selection of possible outcomes. Which outcome does arise out of the physically described possibilities is in no way overdetermined. Physicists haven't found _ANYTHING_ which determines which of the possible outcomes we do in fact register as having occurred. Or does this point count as original (and painfully obvious) research until someone digs up a paper that explicitly states this?

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Jaegwon Kim. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 12:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]