Talk:Isaac Isaacs

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"Critics of the appointment were careful to say that they had no opposition to Isaacs personally, and the fact that he was Jewish was never mentioned, but there is no doubt that currents of personal dislike of Isaacs and of anti-Semitism ran beneath the debate."

The exact same political establishment and King had created a Jewish politician Marquess of Reading only 4 years before. Can we have a source for this anti-semitic bias against Issacs.

Anonymous comments seldom get replies. Adam 23:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

--Ali me hi 04:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)from Alison[reply]

Isaac Isaacs?[edit]

That can't possibly be his real name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.110.247.136 (talk) 15:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh ye of little faith. It was his real name. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date of death - 11th or 12th February?[edit]

Apparently he died in his sleep on the night of 11/12 February 1948.

ADB dates his death to 11 February, as do the Victorian Parliamentary website and the Commonwealth Parliamentary Handbook.

The National Library has 12 February.

This well-documented site says it happened “on the morning of the 11th”. But if it occurred after midnight, it would seem to be the morning of the 12th, not the 11th.

So, where does that leave us? We may need to get hold of his death certificate to be sure of the date. In the meantime, since the official sources all say 11th, I'm changing the article. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From ADB you will see article is by former Dean of Law and GG Zelman Cowan who wrote two full biographies on ISAACS. That is authorative, and one presumes evidence-based. billinghurst (talk) 12:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From The Argus of Thursday 12 February 1948:

Sir Isaac Isaacs, who was Australia's first native-born Governor-General, died yesterday at the age of 92.

He died at his home in Marne st, South Yarra, having been ill for several weeks. He passed peacefully in his sleep at 3am.

"SIR ISAAC ISAACS DIES AT 92". The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956). Melbourne, Vic.: National Library of Australia. 12 February 1948. p. 1. Retrieved 3 September 2011.

Otherthinker (talk) 17:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thus Zelman Cowen writes: "he died in his sleep at his home in Marne Street, South Yarra, in the early hours of the morning of 11 February 1948" (Isaac Isaacs, 1993 edition, p 257). Wikiain (talk) 19:58, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I notified the National Library of its error, which is being corrected - although, owing to a website redesign, the correction may take several months to appear. Wikiain (talk) 03:52, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. Thanks. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 04:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

QC or not QC (as a postnominal)?[edit]

Does anyone object to me removing the postnominal, "QC"? The convention is that judges of superior courts discontinue its use upon appointment. --Cato the Younger (talk) 15:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I object. Encyclopedia articles should show all the postnominals a subject was entitled to, even if they chose not to use them. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 22:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He was a QC for a very brief period; he was a KC at the time of his death. Otherthinker (talk) 11:46, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peerage[edit]

At Australian peers and baronets, it says, without a source, that Isaacs was nominated for a peerage but it was refused (presumably by King George V).

At this site, it says, also without any corroboration, that Isaacs was offered a peerage on his appointment as Governor-General, but he declined it.

Either way, he never got the peerage that was so confidently forecast in places like this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

I’ve had a look for any authoritative source that can confirm or refute either of these claims, without success. Does anyone know the correct story? -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 09:26, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see anything about a peerage in Zelman Cowen's biography of Isaacs, which seems to be the authoritative source; nor in the entry for Isaacs in the Australian Dictionary of Biography, which is by Cowen. So I conclude that the rumour is false. I've removed it from Australian peers and baronets. Wikiain (talk) 19:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

More good work. Maybe we can report that a peerage was confidently predicted, because it clearly was, but for whatever reason it did not eventuate. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 04:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting use of British Empire in Australian placenames pre federation (1901)[edit]

I have reverted the addition of British Empire to Isaacs place of birth. While it is true that Isaacs was born in the colony of Victoria prior to federation (in 1901), the usage of British Empire in Australian placenames is contrary to standard usage in wikipedia and in Australian English Billingd (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Wikiain (talk) 23:45, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]