Talk:In the Heart of the Sea (film)

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Genre[edit]

Fantasy? Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.32.59.173 (talk) 18:53, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation-page title[edit]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. This has been here for a very long time now, and there is clearly no sweeping wind in favour of the move, or evidence that the proposed title is overwhelmingly the currently favoured one. As BDD says, no prejudice against later requests when more information is available. (non-admin closure) — Amakuru (talk) 17:03, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In the Heart of the Sea (film) → Heart of the Sea – Legit sources confirm that Heart of the Sea is the official title. The page Heart of the Sea currently redirects to the movie Titanic's "Heart of the Ocean" pendant. --Relisted. Steel1943 (talk) 07:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC) Freshh (talk) 21:50, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've converted Heart of the Sea to a dab. If this request is successful, it will be the only article with this title, so the dab can be moved to Heart of the Sea (disambiguation). --BDD (talk) 18:45, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would be good if you could specify what those "Legit sources" are, by the way. IMDB can be unreliable, especially about upcoming films. --BDD (talk) 18:46, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are 2 reliable sources that refer to it as "Heart of the Sea":

Source 1- [1]
Source 2- [2]

Need any more?

Lady Lotus (talk) 12:47, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not sure. Sources are still appearing using "In the Heart of the Sea".[3][4][5] Variety[6] and The Hollywood Reporter[7] are still referring to it as such.--Cúchullain ^t/c 13:53, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. Cuchullain's sources are more numerous and reliable. It can be hard to tell with upcoming films, so no prejudice against later requests when more information is available. --BDD (talk) 19:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

"In the...."[edit]

The two-year-old discussion above found reason to anticipate that there would be no need to expect the film to be primarily known by the 6-word title, and thus every reason to expect it would be best known by the 4-word one.
The film opened today with the 6-word title on the film and marquee, so the belief that the 4-word title would turn out to be "official" for the film can no longer be treated as undercutting the blanket presumption of equal disambiguation. (However, whether the movie eventually becomes primary usage requires evidence which IMO it's too early to hope for). In the absence of evidence of a primary title, the bare title should now be that of the needed Dab page; a question to be settled is whether Dab or something else (i presume the film) gets primary title. So interim title for film article is still suffixed, and for the book, likewise, with the default of "Dab page gets unsuffixed title in the absence of contrary evidence" coming back into force. (If it helps you sleep soundly, think of the situation as "The anticipated film Heart of the Sea didn't get made; there's now a presumable naming conflict even tho it had appeared likely book would stay primary.")
--Jerzy•t 02:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Plot expansion[edit]

The plot has to be expanded a bit more, can anyone do that please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drumerwritter (talk • contribs) 07:16, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The film has sunk[edit]

Glad to see that a film about the killing of whales has bombed at the box office. This BBC article says it's made only $11m (£7.25m) on an estimated $100m (£65.9m) budget. But this is not really reflected in the reception section. It's currently just dry figures of Hollywood accounting. 86.182.40.5 (talk) 11:53, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you'd have actually watched the film, you would have been pleasantly surprised to find that it exposed the brutality and cruelty of whaling, made the whales sympathetic and the whalers seem brutish. And, by the way [spolier alert, as they say], the central human character (Chase) realizes the evil of his ways by the end of the film, as reflected by a decision he makes when he has an opportunity to spear the whale (that killed his mates) in the eye, and does not do so, because he realizes that he and the whalers had been in the wrong.

Ironic how you celebrate the "bombing at the box office" of the one film that would bring the uneducated massess onboard to your own point of view. If you doubt that scene makes the point that the whaler lost his appetite for whaling, also note the reaction at the end of the film to the discovery that "oil can now be found under dry land". Watch the movie.108.29.35.172 (talk) 16:57, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article talk page is for discussing improvements to the article, not for general discussion of the article's topic. - SummerPhD^v2.0 19:00, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Categories query[edit]

I noted at Talk:The Whale (2013 film) that I had concerns about The Whale (2013 film) being included in Category:Films based on Moby-Dick and thought it was inappropriate. These concerns also apply to this article about In the Heart of the Sea, as like The Whale the film is not based on Moby-Dick, but on the story of the loss of the whaler Essex and its aftermath and real life figures like George Pollard Jr. which partly inspired Moby-Dick. The slight difference with this film and The Whale is that there is a stronger connection with Moby-Dick, via the inclusion of Herman Melville and the fact the event is shown to inspire him to write the novel. However that does not mean that it is fair to say that the film is based on Moby-Dick, and I do wonder if inclusion in Category:Moby-Dick would be a better option? See also the discussion I have started at Category talk:Films based on Moby-Dick Dunarc (talk) 19:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]