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The sentence beginning "The road was historically called Icknield Street ..." seems to imply that the name "Icknield Street" is older and more valid than "Ryknild Street". This may well be so, but it would be good to have a source. Does any source before Ranulf Higden name the road at all? Does any scholar more recent than Codrington support the claim? Andrew Dalby 08:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew, if I remember correctly the road was known by various names in the Anglo-Saxon period, Icknield or variations of that being one of them. I believe I read this in Victoria County History Vol 1 for Warwickshire which I haven't found online but took notes from in Birmingham Central Libary, that however is dated 1904 around the same time as Codrington. Historians have tried to justfy the name as being linked to the Iceni tribe as their Northern route or way but this seems to add to the confusion with the other Icknield Street. Neither name was used by the Romans themselves and what I mean by "was used historically" is in use pre-Norman but I must check my source on that. I didn't wish to get into a protracted discussion of the names it has gone by throughout history in the main text but try to explain why there are two names. Haverfield prefers Ryknield to distinguish it from the other Icknield Street, having no claim to either name, an argument which to me has some attraction and many sources name it Ryknield rather than Icknield, modern maps O.S. being one. I'll re-check my sources to see where it is named and how pre-Norman, I did check Dugdale as well and he may have stated this. Best RegardsArgrogan (talk)

Please also read Codrington's Introduction p29 onwards (link to the full text on the article page)for a fuller discussion of the histrorical names of the road.

I have redrafted the into to reflect Codringtons introduction which I hope clarifys the naming question.Argrogan (talk)

The Names section doesn't make sense. The first paragraph is about Icknield *Way*. It states that Icknield Street is named in Leges Edwardi Confessoris (11th/12th century). This appears to be incorrect and it is Icknield Way that is named in that text.

The second paragraph begins "Icknield Street acquired the name Ryknild Street during the 12th century, when it was named by Ranulf Higdon, a monk of Chester writing in 1344." 1344 is in the 14th century, not the 12th. It continues "It has borne that name, or Rigning, Reenald or Rignall, from early times." Therefore this paragraph gives three different dates for the origin of the name, without clarification. Dadge (talk) 11:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Templeborough[edit]

Templeborough is named in the lede but the article doesn't mention much north of Derby, and has no further reference to Templeborough. The Templeborough page asserts that the road reaches (and passes) Templeborough but with no obvious reference that we can re-use here. Any thoughts on how to improve on this point? - Thanks - Gilgamesh4 (talk) 08:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]