Talk:Hungarian Dances (Brahms)

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German version of the article - Ungarische Tänze

The German version of the article has been created and deleted a number of times (de:Ungarische Tänze). It appears there have been copyright violations, stubs, or minor vandalism mischief. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Group29 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Why by "Johannes Brahms" when he has not composed the pieces nor orchestrated all of them himself, and never included them in the list of his own compositions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.23.6.111 (talk) 14:21, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Books three and four

If I am not mistaken (and I don't believe I am), no. 16 is the last number of book three, not the first number of book four. Kostaki mou (talk) 02:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

The numbering has since been corrected.
My own question has to do with the dates of books three and four, which were not published until 1880, whereas the lead presently states "a set of 21 lively dance tunes based mostly on Hungarian themes, completed in 1869." Was the entire cycle completed in 1869, but the last two books left unpublished until 1880? Milkunderwood (talk) 01:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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In popular culture

From my talk page:

Hi there. Do you think it is not worth mentioning, even though it is one of the most important films of the decade, and that is memorable gag in the history of cinema in which the whole song is played? Don't you think the article deserves a "in popular culture" section and we should enrich it instead of avoid its very existence? --Jbaranao (talk) 22:13, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I removed, citing WP:POPCULTURE, the mention of The Great Dictator – where, appropriately, the Hungarian Dance No. 5 is mentioned. I can't see how mentioning the shaving scene in an article about the complete set of 21 dances adds to their understanding. At minimum, that would need a reliable reference other than a YouTube clip. It would also need reputable analysis as to the significance of the choice of music, to widen the reader's understanding of the character of Brahms' music. In short, I don't see anything in the the edit in question that would satisfy WP:POPCULTURE. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 09:59, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. It is easy to find a reference in a serious book, altough in my opinion the clip is more useful, and is obviously true a reliable. More generally, the "In popular culture" normally does precisely what the edit does: to mention appearences in important pieces of culture. If we decide that that's not worth noting, we should delete thousands of similar examples, like Mozart's Requiem. In my opinion, the only reason it could look a little bit strange es because currently there are no more examples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbaranao (talk • contribs) 06:53, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

That the scene exists is not disputed; a reference in a serious book is required to show the significance of the choice of music. I suspect that such a reference exists, so if you can include that, there would be no objection. Pointing to the unsourced laundry lists at Mozart's Requiem doesn't help – problems there, or elsewhere, are no excuse to create similar troubles here. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:30, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Inspiration

It would be nice to read more about how and why Mr. Brahms came to create this collection. I heard a rumour (long time ago) that he was inspired by Gipsy musicians in the restaurants of Berlin, but never actually set foot in Hungary. But I have no source to either support or gainsay this story, which may well be urban legend. The German page mentions influence from violonist Eduard Reményi but without offering any reference. Jan olieslagers (talk) 13:09, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Maine Stein Song

Supposed to be based on one of these dances. Which? 2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:9C8E:DBE:8745:E922 (talk) 18:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

"The first complete orchestral versions were recorded digitally by Claudio Abbado and the Vienna Philharmonic for Deutsche Grammophon in 1982"

Not so. There was a complete performance on Vanguard Records in 1956 by the Vienna State Opera Orchestra conducted by Mario Rossi. Robert Schollum's orchestrations of nos. 4, 8 and 9 were commissioned by Vanguard for this recording. There may have been other complete recordings before Abbado's (and perhaps before Rossi's). Kostaki mou (talk) 05:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)