Talk:Hugh Grosvenor, 7th Duke of Westminster

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University of Oxford[edit]

There was nothing to say Hugh went to Oxford University before the 9th of August, then it was added unsourced. A source was added [1] but it is a tabloid article from after this unsourced material was added to this wiki page, which makes me think the tabloid used this wiki page as a source (there are other paragraphs pretty much lifted from this wiki article in the cited source). Hence I think this still requires a citation. He graduated Necastle in ~August 2013, and started at Wheatsheaf in September of 2013, so attending Oxford seems unlikely. [2] Perhaps this rumour was initiated by this person [3] who had a linkedin page suggesting Hugh went to Oxford, but it seems this is an impersonator as many of his accounts have been closed down and his biography contains falsifiable information (e.g. he didn't go to eton college and was not president of OUCA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D Wells (talk • contribs) 11:30, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Hawken, Abe (10 August 2016). "Meet the new Duke of Westminster: Prince George's 25-year-old godfather - who had a £5million 21st birthday party - has inherited the £9billion family fortune". Daily Mail. Retrieved 10 August 2016.
  2. ^ https://uk.linkedin.com/in/hugh-grosvenor-8ab99b81
  3. ^ https://plus.google.com/111515500313174043752

Arms[edit]

I have added a note but the Arms need to be updated to remove the Garter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.234.36.213 (talk) 23:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Amendments for accuracy[edit]

Hello Wikipedia editors,

My name is Paul Mannion and I am the Public Relations and Communications Manager for the Grosvenor Estate which represents the business activities of the Grosvenor family.

I am aware of the guidelines around Wikipedia editing by those with a conflict of interest so wanted to come to you as editors to ask for the following changes to be made to the 7th Duke's Wikipedia page as they are inaccurate.

Under the siblings section, the Duke's elder sister Lady Tamara Katharine Grosvenor is spelt incorrectly, it is "Katherine".

It is our understanding that the "Lines of succession to the British throne" box is incorrect and should be deleted.

Similarly, the "Orders of precedence in the UK" box is also incorrect and should be deleted.

Many thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmannion (talk • contribs) 14:43, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've amended the spelling of Lady Tamara's middle name (the spelling you give is confirmed by online sources like thepeerage.com and Cracroft's Peerage). But I'm not sure on what basis you suggest the boxes are "incorrect". In any event, if they are incorrect, they should be amended to correct them, not deleted (unless the Duke has no position in the order of precedence, which can't be correct, and/or isn't in the line of succession to the Throne).

succession line to the throne[edit]

Just to explain the problem some people see in the Duke's position in the Line of Succession to the UK throne: Because duke Hugh's matrilineal great-great-grandmother, comtesse Sophie Merenberg (lineage up to her: -> Sasha of Phillips - Georgina of Wernher - Anastasia de Torby - Sophie of Merenberg) was born illegitimate, this Sophie does not convey hereditary right to the UK throne, although Sophie unquestionably is a direct descendant of Electress Sophia's 'body', though not heir. This Sophie Merenberg was born about a month before her parents, duke Nicolas of Nassau and Russian noble Natalia Pushkina, became married in their wedding in July of 1868. The 'English' succession law is adamant in these matters: only children born in wedlock are Electress Sophia's heirs to the throne. (comtesse Sophie's father duke Nicolas is a direct descendant of King George III's first-born sister, Augusta, duchess-consort of Brunswick, and therefore Nicolas was in Line of Succession, as are those descendants of duke Nicolas who descend from Nicolas' such children who were born after Nicolas married Natalia.)

However, this is not the end of the story about the Line of Succession here. Sophie of Merenberg's own birthdate is irrelevant to the possibility that her daughter Anastasia de Torby could be, and actually is, in Line of Succession as child born in wedded marriage of Sophie of Merenberg with her husband the Grand Duke Mikhail Mikhailovich of Russia. This is because Grand Duke Mikhail Mikhailovich himself is a direct HEIR of Electress Sophia's 'body' and had inherited right of succession in the UK. The third-born aunt of King George III was queen Louise of Norway and Denmark, as daughter of King George II one of heiresses of the Electress Sophia's 'body'. Queen Louise's daughter, Sophia Magdalena the Queen-Consort of Sweden had son, King Gustav IV Adolph. His daughter was Sweden's princess Sophie, Grand Duchess of Baden, whose daughter Cecilie Olga is the mother of the said Grand Duke Mikhail Mikhailovich.

So, the illicit birth of Sophie of Merenberg excludes Duke Hugh from the lofty position of heirs among the sister of George III, and Duke Hugh enjoys the mere lower position in the Line of Succession, derived from the third daughter of George II. This lower position puts Duke Hugh somewhere below the 3000 first ones in the succession, whereas the lost position from George III's sister would be just below the 2000 first ones...

Sophie Merenberg and her birth at pre-marital chronology: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00010334&tree=LEO

This display link https://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00010336&tree=LEO&display=standard&generations=4 pinpoints the ancestry of duke Hugh's great-grandmother, comtesse Anastasia de Torby, from her legitimate great-grandmother, Baden's grand duchess Sophie, princess of Sweden from a younger Vasa dynasty (herself in Line of Succession because of her own great-grandmother, Louise, third daughter of George II). 2001:14BA:485C:F700:750C:A7B7:264B:CFC8 (talk) 10:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

spacing[edit]

In references, down near the bottom of the page, number five needs a space before the first parenthesis. I couldn’t figure out how to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.32.5 (talk) 23:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

sorry. i just figured it out. just a little (a lot!) rusty in editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.118.32.5 (talk) 23:15, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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