Talk:Holocaust uniqueness debate

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A fact from Holocaust uniqueness debate appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that some have considered the Holocaust a unique event, external to history and beyond human understanding?

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 04:35, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that some have considered the Holocaust a unique event, external to history and beyond human understanding?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alberto Heredia (sculptor)

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:51, 11 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Article is new enough and long enough. I can't verify the majority of the things, but these I can read seem to check out. Nothing suggesting plagiarism or copyvio. Hoom seems interesting and is supported in the article although I kind of have to wonder if any of the sources says "some consider the Holocaust" rather than being examples of someone saying that it was unique. QPQ is OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:59, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- With the possible exception of Bomholt Nielsen, they're all secondary sources explicitly discussing the uniqueness debate itself and none of the cites are about the author's own view. Blatman is against it, I think Rosenfeld endorses it partly but his presentation on the debate is very evenhanded in my view. (t · c) buidhe 09:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:57, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Original research[edit]

The difference is that Lim is specifically discussing the issue of Holocaust uniqueness, while the second source you are citing is not. So, I think it would violate WP:NOR to include it. A more popular exponent of this view is Steven T. Katz, and there are indeed sources discussing his view in relation to Holocaust uniqueness, although I'm unsure about WP:DUE. (t · c) buidhe 06:06, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraph starting with "Others argue that the term "genocide" cannot be used for all instances of mass killings..." is also concerning. There are various definitions of genocide and the most widely used one (Genocide Convention) is not applicable to "all mass killings", but neither is it restricted to the holocaust. Various alternatives to the genocide concept have been proposed, but it's not clear what that has to do with the Holocaust uniqueness debate. (t · c) buidhe 02:57, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UNDUE issues[edit]

This is a topic that has been covered by multiple overview sources, which should be the basis of the article. Specific scholars stating "I think the Holocaust is unique" is not very informative, especially when you pick ones that are not noteworthy or influential. (t · c) buidhe 14:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]