Talk:History of propaganda

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Laughable[edit]

How on earth is it that the word "Putin" does not even appear? It certainly ought to, and prominently. Pax 19:44, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Abolitionism[edit]

Abolitionism does not belong to a page on "History of Propaganda" as it's very hard (or impossible) to justify the use of the word propaganda from any dictionary or interpretation in this case, insisting on having Abolitionism figure in that page might be bias at best, motivated otherwise. As removals of that section of the page have been disputed with threat to loss of editing privileges, Seraphim System suggested the creation of this post. Dogfiveshield (talk) 14:52, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dogfiveshield: Please go read Bernays and consider your own, sad, bias. Propaganda is exactly what that was. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article, as currently written in January, 2024, does not provide sufficient context, for why abolitionism became subject to propaganda. What is the difference between, for example, attempts at persuasion versus attempts to propagandize? If that could be clarified in the article, it would be a service to readers. Regards, Imdownwithbrowns (talk) 13:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris troutman: Accusations of using propaganda should be associated with a proof of validity, thanks for pointing out an author, when that author's relevance will be established and his words successfully applied to abolitionism as a form of propaganda then Abolitionism will belong to the page on History of Propaganda and only then. Please establish how Bernays views apply to abolitionism before putting it on this page. Kind regards Dogfiveshield (talk) 13:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Scientific propaganda[edit]

Can a section on scientific propaganda be added such as the use of industry sponsored "research" to politically benefit the industry - tobacco, oil, ...?

Is there also credible scientific data on pushing a fringe idea from the margin to the center via opinionated scientific research? 2600:1700:D591:5F10:DA2:C538:7078:C0D0 (talk) 21:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Western propaganda[edit]

I was thinking of having a stand alone article Western propaganda, which is now a redirect to Propaganda model. --Mhhossein ^talk 06:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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NPOV[edit]

The third paragraph of the lead section:

Unfortunately, propaganda can be dangerous because it can be used to promote harmful or unethical agendas. It can be used to promote war or genocide, to spread false information, or to manipulate people into supporting harmful policies or ideologies. Therefore, it is important for individuals to be critical of the information they receive and to seek out multiple sources to verify facts and perspectives. The term propaganda has acquired a strongly negative connotation by association with its most manipulative and jingoistic examples.

(the parts I believe to be non-NPOV in bold)

While I strongly agree, does this fit the NPOV Wikipedia should have? I think it should be rephrased 2A02:C7F:2C25:8C00:7896:B91A:F09D:73D0 (talk) 12:42, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the whole paragraph seems tutorial and instructive. I didn't see anything particular in the body that would support the statements. My remedy would be to salvage just the last sentence of the paragraph and append it to the second paragraph. _signed,Willondon (talk) 16:23, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've done what you suggested. Thank you - as an IP I didn't want to make a change like this without agreement 2A02:C7F:2C25:8C00:851A:A7C6:5668:C26B (talk) 18:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]