Talk:Hartley Wood and Co

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Which Oldbury[edit]

The second sentence in the Hartley Family section includes a link to a dab page Oldbury (then Worcestershire). Unfortunately my local geography is not good enough to know whether this should point to Oldbury, Shropshire or Oldbury, West Midlands (which is probably more likely).— Rod ^talk 08:46, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The latter; thanks for checking. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:13, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it is the same Oldbury, but the county borders shifted! It depends on what year is being referred to as to which county is given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlassyEye (talk • contribs) 15:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nailsea[edit]

I note the use of Nailsea, Bristol in the article but its not in Bristol, it is a separate town in North Somerset.— Rod ^talk 11:33, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to "near Bristol" - does that satisfy? And please [[WP:BOLD|be bold] and make any edits you think necessary. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:39, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary changes[edit]

I am editing this article because of a few historical inaccuracies regarding the early history of James Hartley and his two sons. Please feel free to query me on any of the changes as you wish, but I am in the process of writing the entire history of Chance Brothers from 1824–1981, which, of course, encompasses the period when James Hartley and his sons were working there. My reference is J F Chance's 'History of the Firm of Chance Brothers', 1923. I'm afraid the information from the first citation is inaccurate in many respects: W E Chance was born in 1846, so the firm was not founded by him, but by Robert Lucas Chance and was named British Crown Glass Company. W E Chance & Co. Ltd was founded in the 1880s. John and James Hartley were bitterly opposed to sheet glass and they left Chances and Hartleys under a cloud. My book, which I hope to publish in 2018, will be called Chance Reflections. But until then I don't believe I can source it as a reference. Also see my websites www.chanceglass.net and www.chanceglassware.uk on the domestic glassware produced by Chance Brothers.

James Hartley's Patent for Rough Plate Glass[edit]

I am certain the date of 1838 is wrong. From the information I have (again, J F Chance's 'History of the Firm of Chance Brothers', 1923), this is given as Patent No. 11891 and is dated to 7th October 1847. It would appear that the information from Tyne & Wear Archives is wholly inaccurate.

Wood Family[edit]

Here a reference is made of George Wood leaving "W E Chance Bros" in 1873. There is some confusion here: W. E. (William Edward) Chance was a partner at Chance Brothers, but struck out on his own in 1873 to form W E Chance & Co Ltd. It appears that George Wood was therefore in the employ at Chance Brothers, but left in 1873 and was succeeded as Manager by Job Parish, not his son. I have no information from J. F. Chance's book, The History of Chance Brothers as to when Alfred Wood was employed at W E Chance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GlassyEye (talk • contribs) 14:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]