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Selk'nam use[edit]

Actually the Fuegian dog was also kept by the Selk'nam people. See the paragraph Uses for details.--Scottishwildcat12 (talk) 10:56, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Extinct dog breeds category[edit]

Since this was not really a dog, is it appropriate that it's in the Extinct dog breeds category? Should it instead be in a more inclusive category, such as Extinct mammal breeds? FunkMonk (talk) 21:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Biased source?[edit]

Coming across this, it appears there are at least two quotes uncritically presented from Popper. Although these present first-hand accounts of this animal, I'm wondering the veracity and bias of their source - the first lines on his page announce him as perpetuating a major genocide against the people these animals belonged to; in this context, he seems obviously biased to negatively compare aspects of their lifestyle to his. ConnieC420 (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I realized it'd get my point across better to just mark them as unreliable. ConnieC420 (talk) 16:18, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Separation between Fuegian and Patagonian dogs[edit]

Jaksic and Castro (2023) reviewed historical records of pre-contact dogs in Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego. They came to the conclusion that "Fuegian dogs", treated as one unit in this article, actually represent two populations: true domestic dogs, belonging to the Chonos, Kawesqar, and Yaghan, and domesticated culpeos (possibly hybridized with domestic dogs), belonging to the Aonikenk, Manenk'enk, and Selk'nam. Both now extinct. They propose the use of "Fuegian dog" for the former and "Patagonian dog" for the latter. Should this article, which treats all "Fuegian" dogs as a singular unit (something Jaksic and Castro criticize in this article), be overhauled or split in two following this review? Shuvuuia (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable source[edit]

The article cites Julius Popper, a man who is responsible of genocide against the Selknam, as a source for the role of the Fuegian dogs in Selknam communities. Needless to say, the source is very biased and not trustworthy. The Spanish article cites other sources (including Charles Darwin) that contradict Popper's claim and instead say that the Fuegian dogs were close with the Selknam communities (in other words, they were their pets haha) and would also help with hunting.

Another thing about the Spanish version is that it mentions that the Fuegian dog is closely related to foxes and the Fuegian dog was a product of the Selknam domesticating culpeo foxes ^[1] (the English Wikipedia article for the culpeo itself mentions this as well). Not sure how accurate it is. Hipotecas (talk) 20:15, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618213004291?via%3Dihub

This is not a species...[edit]

... so we should not use a species infobox. Please remove it. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618213004291?via%3Dihub

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