Talk:Frauenthal House (Conway, Arkansas)

National Register of Historic Places Low‑importance

	National Register of Historic Places portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of U.S. historic sites listed on the National Register of Historic Places on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.National Register of Historic PlacesWikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic PlacesTemplate:WikiProject National Register of Historic PlacesNational Register of Historic Places articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Arkansas Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Arkansas portal This article is supported by WikiProject Arkansas (assessed as Low-importance).

Fraunthal House[edit]

An editor has removed text mention of name "Fraunthal House" from the article. It is a fact that Fraunthal House has been used as a name for this house, because it is listed on the National Register under that name. Google search should turn up multiple hits, many being derivatives to the National Register's NRIS database. It should remain clarified in the article that this is the place one is looking for, if hunting for "Fraunthal House" mentioned in any source. --do ncr am 19:22, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's still in the infobox, as the name of the NRHP listing. That and the redir from the NRHP spelling are all that's required -- anything else is WP:UNDUE weight. It's a bloody typo.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's a bloody typo. I think that Fraunthal House is a valid name, based on its usage in the MPS document. Those MPS documents are extremely heavily reviewed. I think the actual design drawings of this house are labelled "Fraunthal House". Probably there is a family that has used different variations of spelling in their name. Perhaps Fraunthal is less Germanic-seeming, and someone adopted it when in the United States there were many Americanizations of Germanic names going on (this is speculation, I grant). This probably could be resolved by getting further information, e.g. by requesting the NRHP nomination documents (free) from the National Register. However, it is sourced well enough that Fraunthal is a name of the house. --do ncr am 19:29, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is speculation, especially since I gave you a source for the spelling of the name of the people who it was named for. Give me a source that doesn't derive from the typo in the MPS document, and we have something to discuss. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:31, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is not speculation that "Fraunthal House" has been used as a name for the house. See Google hits. It is only speculation about why Fraunthal rather than Frauenthal might have been used, and no such speculation was included in the article. Sarek, your removal of (sourced) mention of Fraunthal in the text makes it appear that the NRHP infobox name is wrong, and that anyone should correct that. It doesn't work in practice, to avoid rather than to explain a naming discrepancy. I don't mind the explicit discussion being made less salient, perhaps in a footnote. Could you try editing in some explicit acknowledgment of Fraunthal House being the name. Your tendency to edit war, and to discuss by edit summaries, repeatedly in hundreds of interactions with me, is disturbing. I appreciate that here at this Talk you are at least responding. --do ncr am 19:39, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done, and added hidden comment in National Register of Historic Places listings in Faulkner County, Arkansas as well. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:46, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, http://www.arkansaspreservation.com/historic-properties/_search_nomination_popup.aspx?id=1395. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

requested move[edit]

This article was subject of a Requested Move discussion now located (and closed) at Talk:Frauenthal House (Little Rock, Arkansas). --do ncr am 19:22, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]