Talk:Francisco Lesmes

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Date of birth[edit]

Most sources quote his date of birth as 4 March 1924 ("Legends of Real Valladolid", www.eu-football.info and www.national-football-teams.com) which is the date used in the article. Other sources (e.g. www.bdfutbol.com) give the date of birth as 6 November 1922. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 09:37, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Francisco Lesmes[edit]

You have shown his date of birth as 6 November 1922. This biography and Spanish wikipedia give it as 4 March 1924. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 06:49, 19 October 2012 (UTC)I got the DOB from this... Giant Snowman 07:50, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. bdfutbol seems to be the only source that gives 6 November 1922. As far as I can see, every other source says 4 March 1924; IMHO, we should go with the majority and his biography. It's your decision. ;) -- Daemonic Kangaroo(talk) 08:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy for you to change it with a note on the talk page. Giant Snowman 08:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

However, the article as we stand reads 24 March not 4. Is it a typo you made Snowman or was it deliberate? I think we should go with the EL NORTE DE CASTILLA reference (4 March), it's a newspaper with ties to Real Valladolid, which was his main club. I'll ask User:Mega60nonetheless, he's THE BEST in Spanish football database. Cheerio! --AL (talk) 14:01, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mega has responded, according to this link he sent me (http://books.google.es/books?id=DoGtMeqV-fAC&pg=PA554&lpg=PA554&dq=Francisco+Lesmes+1922&source=bl&ots=7IFW9mEWla&sig=X86aNiE5lA3gqINrjbBJK0jZ-W4&hl=es&sa=X&ei=tIqBUMuaL8qEhQeKy4CQCg&ved=0CG8Q6AEwDg#v=onepage&q=Francisco%20Lesmes%201922&f=false), it seems 6/11/1922 is the correct birthdate, but he says he'll keep on investigating for confirmation (or not). In a (very) related note, he has also corrected Francisco's caps for Spain in the infobox, he has one wrongly attributed to him, Rafael Lesmes played one of those two games, not Francisco. --AL (talk) 18:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mega sent me another handful of links, they all seem to say 1924. Odd, but maybe the Royal Spanish Football Federation is the one that is incorrect. --AL (talk) 17:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Mega messaged me early today, saying that he talked with someone that works with the BDFUTBOL.com website, and that person has the birth certificate from the player, which reads 4 MARCH 1924.

Case closed, happy week to you mate - --AL (talk) 14:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been copied from the user talk pages.Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:25, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]