Talk:Ford Escort (Europe)

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how do i time a 90 ford escort?

Say "Go!" and start the clock. When it stops, stop the clock. Read off the time... voila! Seriously though, what do you mean? If you mean how do you set up the valve or ignition timing, I suggest you look it up in a repair/maintenance manual. Wikipedia isn't the place to ask about this. Graham 06:57, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mark 4, Mark 5, Mark 6????? - TOO CONFUSING[edit]

The page has been slated for being too untidy. When I originally wrote this page I condensed it down to just the four basic platforms. Remember that what everyone calls the Mark 4 is really the Mark III with a nose-job and different dashboard. Ford themselves don't even use the "Mark" designator to name the different generations and facelift. Equally, the the 1990 model (which everyone calls the Mark 5) is the REAL Mark 4. Then we get to the 1992 and 1995 facelifts of the Mark 4 (or is it the Mark 5), then we get a Mark 6 and a Mark 7 for what is basically the same car as the Mark 4 with the Zetec engines and some bits off the Mondeo.

STOP!!!! Keep it simple.

I've simplified the page down a great deal and dealt with the facelifts separately.

  • Disagree. Then you can say Mk 2 is a Mk 1 with a new nose job as well. NL Buttonfreak 21:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This argument still gets people going today especially in Britain lol they can't comprehend that the 5th and 6th are different ha ha ha 185.168.134.90 (talk) 20:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Disagree. I also disagree. You mention that Quote: "Equally, the the 1990 model (which everyone calls the Mark 5) is the REAL Mark 4". If everyone knows it as a mark 5, why call it anything else? It would cause more confusion to call them the 4(b), (c) or (d). Call them what people know them as, with maybe an explanation in the article. The 4, 5 and 6/7 are very distinct and different models. If I'm looking for information on a mk6 Escort, I will look for Mk6, not mk4(c) or whatever. Scancoaches 16:06, 25 August 2006 (GMT)

There's no Mark 6 Escort! It's only the third restyle of the Mark 5! I should know it, as I worked in one of their European plants back then!

EscortPower.org[edit]

Would it be OK to add my Ford Escort forum to the links. We have loads of technical info and pictures on there, aswell as discussion boards. We have members from all round the world and it's free to register too. Thanks in advance. [1] 81.98.119.159 20:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First use of "Escort" name?[edit]

There seems to be a bit of confusion about whether the first use of the "Escort" name was on an Anglia or a Popular. The top paras say Anglia, the last para of the Mk I section says Popular. Reading the linked articles, it seems that what may have happened is that the Popular at the time (early sixties) was a badged version of the Anglia, and therefore the estate "Escort" was a version of both/either.

Can someone who knows for sure cast some light on this? Umbriel 07:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Pop was a low cost car and when introduced used the preceding bodystyle. The Anglia was the less well fitted version of the Prefect. When the "threebox" Anglia/Prefect came out, in 1953, the old "sit-up-and-beg" Anglia body was used for the Popular. When the new Harry Potter style came out in the late 50s the older three box became the Popular. Technically the Escort was not a badged version since it and the van ("5 cwt"?) had a different body. It is more accurate to describe it as an estate version of the 100E carbody fitted out to the same level internally as the Anglia - the Squire had the higher qulaity trim and extras of the 100E Prefect.GraemeLeggett 08:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Ford Escort (North American) ????????[edit]

  • Disagree. Who's idea was this? the European and US versions of this vehicle are two very different motor vehicles with large amounts of history attached to the various models. To merge these two articles would make a single article that would be far too long. Leave them as they are I say!
If I may randomly offer my $.02, I completely agree with you. Merging them would be a horrible idea and could only produce an overwhelmingly confusing article. And you're right, they're completely different. I drive a '95 North American Escort and I see nothing on this page that resembles my '90's-colored bright green car. :)
On an unrelated note, I think that John Cleese beat that exact same '75 Escort with a tree branch in an episode of Faulty Towers. Can anyone verify this? I think it would be good to add to this article if it's true ;)
--Diane M. Napolitano 04:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No. It was a British car. Does Allegro sound familiar? 89.100.139.240 23:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was a Morris 1100 that Basil Fawlty beats with a tree, the Allegro's predecessor. Futurebobbers 00:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree. The user who proposed it thinks it's too much to have two separate articles for the same nameplate, whereas "Corolla has one and there's a lot of different ones" or something like that. Apparently he doesn't realize that there were two different Escorts being built at the same time in two different countries. --Sable232 07:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Disagree strongly. The US Escort, apart from the first model, was a totally different, Mazda-based car.
I saw a US Escort in Britian once and it was huge, by British standards anyway. Like Granada sized... though i suppose in America that's a "compact" XD. 82.153.230.130 (talk) 12:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose merger for the reasons above. Besides which, there was originally one article; it was split by consensus. – Kieran T (talk) 12:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most successful rally car of all time[edit]

This is wrong, the Lancia Delta Intergrale is. I have changed it to one of the most successful rally cars

--Rybiczka 10:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The consensus is not to merge. 75.36.10.114 09:54, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Separate article for Ford Escort RS Cosworth[edit]

Maybe it's worth starting a separate article about Escort RS Cosworth ? Technically it's a different car, keeping just visual resemblance with usual Escort. It had a longitudally-mounted Cosworth YB engine (while Escort mk V had transversally-mounted one), all-wheel drive and a floorpan from Sierra Cosworth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Basilex (talk • contribs) 17:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've started an Escort RS Cosworth page but it needs a lot of work, can anyone help?? Needs more information and facts and figures. Thanks in advance! Be quick before someone deletes it as un-encyclopedic!!scancoaches 13:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Airbags[edit]

I think the statement about airbages on the Mark Vb needs to be changed. It reads:

The crash structure was also improved, featuring side impact bars, improved crumple zones and later on, airbags.

I had a 1993 L-reg bog-standard 1.3 model, and it had a driver's airbag; I also saw an M-reg LX variant and it had 2. So they obivously had airbags from the start.

--Royal Ambassador to Tessmage.com (talk) 10:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't find your suggestion contentious: why don't you do it? The only slight complication I can think of is that airbags might have been standard on some markets but not on others. Although for many purposes we are encouraged to think of Europe as a single market, articles periodically turn up in the ADAC magazine (magazine of the German roadside assistance association: Germany's answer to the AAA if you are Americans and to the AA if you are English) indicating that some safety features - the one I remember most recently concerned some sort of electronic anti skid device, I think - are almost uiniversal on cars sold in Germany, but progressively less included in markets to the beyond the German speaking lands where (by implication) secondary safety is less of a concern in the market place. But that is me speculating digressively. If you have the facts about the Escort airbags, there is nothing to stop you correcting the Escort article. Do it! (Please.) Regards Charles01 (talk) 11:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


"The car was built in Germany, Britain and several Commonwealth countries."[edit]

It was? This statement appears in the text. I know about the car being built in Germany and Britain (and after a bit also Spain). But I have not come across any reference to its having been built in any Commonwealth countries. Is anyone able to spell out which Commonwealth countries the writer might have had in mind, please? Charles01 (talk) 14:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know the Mk2 was built in Australia and New Zealand scancoaches (talk) 14:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I think I'll adapt the article while I think of it. Charles01 (talk) 15:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"World Champion on manufacturers 70's"[edit]

In the main article of WRC, Fiat and Lancia Stratos appears as champions on main 70's, contradicting this article. What info is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.48.36.172 (talk) 20:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Escort section[edit]

I'm going to propose that this bit of massive speculation be removed entirely. The only sources I can find referring to a 2011 Escort describe it as a hybrid to compete with the Prius, and those are both blog posts (from as far back as 2007, no less) that don't refer to any hard source themselves. (Also, the bit about the "Clark Mason RS 1600" seems a bit odd.) Unless, of course, there's better information out there to prove me wrong. Duncan1800 (talk) 07:00, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I've googled this and found nothing, just blog speculation as you say. Remove. scancoaches (talk) 10:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and removed the section. It was added on 24th February 2009 by an un-registered User who has no other edit history. There is no mention of this vehicle (proposed or otherwise) anywhere online. If a citation can be found then the section should and will be re-installed.scancoaches (talk) 18:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Added on 24th February 2009 by an un-registered User, sketch time for delivery citation un-registered User. I suggest run together longer for accept a edit "cite" repair. --Tomcha (talk) 18:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

Please can editors familiarise themselves with WP:External links before adding or restoring external links to this page. Please note in particular that links to general Ford owners clubs are not acceptable here as they would clearly end up being added to multiple articles - see WP:ELNO no 13. Halsteadk (talk) 21:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

XR3i[edit]

I'd like to request a new separate page for the XR3i. This was EXTREMELY popular in the mid 80s, and it seems a shame we're missing out an exclusive page on it. Ruislick0 (talk) 23:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What would you put in a specific XR3i article that you would not put here? Duplicating the XR3i-specific info here is not a good plan, so any detail would need to be removed from here. I can't see there is enough specific detail to warrant a page - it would just mean that people need to look at two articles instead of one. The Golf GTi has been more popular and over a much longer period and that doesn't have its own page. Halsteadk (talk) 15:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I hear what you say and for the time being we could hold off creating pages for both XR3i and the GTi. There will come a time at some point in future when this article for Ford Escort will have balooned so big that we'd need to sectionize bits of it. That could be the time to do it. Ruislick0 (talk) 08:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Escort Eclipse??[edit]

I had a mk4 escort eclipse, it was H reg and was 1.4 petrol. There is no mention of it under the mk4 section. I don't really remember much about it. I believe it only came in 2 colours, blue and maroon. And I recall being told it was the last model made for the mk4, how true I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.83.34 (talk) 13:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/equipment/Summary.aspx?model=274 doesn't have much info and says the Eclipse was only a 1.3. Most likely a special edition, ie a way of speccing up the remaining unsold mk 4s to sell them off? Halsteadk (talk) 14:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Super Economy Mark 2 Escort[edit]

Hi fellas, I need some advice. I have had in my possession for many years (since 1975) a magazine article that details how Ford (officially observed by the Royal Automobile Club) achieved 2.4 litres per 100 km (118.7 mpg) from a 1300 Mark 2 Escort by extensively modifying all mechanicals to the overall detriment of the car (i.e. 1100 head, soft valve springs, removal of some piston rings, removal of all gears except top, removal of some engine bearings, cutting down on bearing seals, replacement of all glass with perspex, removal of front brakes, fitting 12-inch wheels with radials then shaving the contact patch to an inch wide, etc.). The exercise was to prove that something has to be sacrificed for an improvement in fuel economy, and that economy is reduced when reliability, performance, etc. are put back into a car. My question is: Would this be too 'out there' for the main article, or is it sufficiently interesting to merit a mention? I would appreciate any feedback. Cheers. JohnbRoberts 12:39, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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rarest escort.[edit]

the rarest escort is the mk1 estate Mexico. they made 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.106.141 (talk) 02:56, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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