Talk:Fire (The Jimi Hendrix Experience song)

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Merge - Well obviously TrafficBenBoy 01:50, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


"Despite its sexual overtones, the song had an innocuous origin, stemming from a cold December night in England when the band didn't have a gig, Noel Redding, bass player for The Jimi Hendrix Experience came up with the idea to have Jimi as a guest at his mother's house. Upon arriving, Jimi asked her if he could stand next to her fireplace, she agreed, but her Great Dane was in the way, hence the line, "Aw, move over, Rover, and let Jimi take over..." ("Electric Gypsy")."
Aw..come on! Who thought up this piece of tripe? Even Curtis Knight wouldn't have come up with a yarn like this. 160.84.253.241 07:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't know, I wasn't there. All I know is that as 'a stranger in a strange land', Jimi was a regular at the Redding family home during the early days, when 'The Experience' were just a band 'on the road' like any other. Noel Redding's Mother - Margaret - and Hendrix were VERY fond of each other. Don't forget that Jimi's real mother had died when he was a child. This was a friendship that endured even after Noel left the band. For example she was present at the Isle of Wight festival in 1970. Rumour has it that she provided the safety pin to restore Jimi's 'trouser dignity' during the rather boring 'drum and bass' solo during 'Foxy Lady' (see YouTube) where he holds his Strat in a 'certain position' for a while, then disappears behind the Marshall stacks for a quick fix. Despite all the hype, don't forget that - offstage - Hendrix was a very human, charming, introverted and unmysterious man, with an impish sense of humour. Perhaps he stuck this line in 'just for a laugh'.86.167.44.128 (talk) 19:57, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hendrix? POP???? Who wrote this garbage? Arkyopterix 18:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a information from a fan, The RHCP cover of "Fire" was not recorded during the Freaky Styley sessions but from The Uplift Mofo Party Plan sessions. during the first 4 years of the band they try to record a good version of this song because they played it from the first shows, but only in 1987 they came with that version. 22:05, 21 November 2008

Trivia section[edit]

There is a piece of information (probably incorrect) that says Noel Redding "misse[s]" a measure. Now there is zero substantiation to this. I'm deleting it because we can assume the "lost" notes were intentionally not played by Redding. We cannot assume, however, that he somehow made a mistake.Fdssdf (talk) 23:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Non Notable bands doing cover versions[edit]

I suggest we establish some criteria for notability when adding cover versions of this song performed by other artists. We have a problem of WP:COI parties adding their own band in as an attempt to arouse exposure.

As a rule a WP:RS and WP:V source must at least reference the cover version and attest to its notability. Bluescreenofdef (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're fucked before you start trying to rewrite the rules. Any band with their own article are already deemed to be notable. Now quit following my edits round like you did last year. We do not have a CoI as not only am I not a member of the band, any band, I'm not even a musician. Now please desist your disruptive editing before you get youself blocked again. --WebHamster 00:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not following you around. Just removing non notable garbage from the wikipedia. Again, do you have any WP:V from a WP:RS that the version this band did is notable? Has anyone anywhere ever commented on it at all? Is there even proof they have ever played this song? Let's just stick to the facts. Bluescreenofdef (talk) 00:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From the mouth of babes does come the very words that incriminate them. "non notable garbage" allied to your list of edits tells me (and anyone with any sense) that for some reason you have an axe to grind and are therefore not editing with neutral POV. Whether you like it or not The Hamsters are a notable band. Their inclusion in this article was in a sentence that demonstrated the wide variety of acts that have done cover versions, it did not state that their version was inherently more notable than anyone else's. As it happens the BBC have chosen several of their Hendrix covers for inclusion in different programmes. This is of course a double-edged sword in that it does make their version notable, whilst simultaneously not allowing any written form of RS. As for proof that "they've played this song", all I can say is that you demonstrate your ignorance of the subject you are attempting to edit. Now, back to the point in hand. Why do you feel you need to rewrite the rules to get what you want (something which is patently clear to all obviously)? There are several venues to do so, none of them are this talk page. --WebHamster 02:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some cover versions are more notable than others. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a list of facts; if a band cover the song, they ought to be notable, sure, but the information also needs to be verifiable (which it clearly is in the case of RHCP) and relevant (for instance, the RHCP covering the song has a story attached to it--Hillel Slovak's story--and I don't see any such thing for Kingston Wall). I don't know if Alice Cooper covering the song is very important; perhaps he should go also. Drmies (talk) 18:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

soul?[edit]

i don't think this is soul. Its is definitely funk or funk-rock. As it says on the funk genre page: "Soul music with a greater emphasis on beats, influences from rhythm and blues, jazz and psychedelic rock" which is exactly what this song is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theunknown901921 (talkcontribs) 13:18, 19 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]