Talk:Fascination with death

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State of article[edit]

This page is an absolute mess. Hopefully people more capable than myself can fix at least parts of it, my own specialty is grammar. I fixed a couple of sentences before giving up temporarily, this article is full of repetition and tautology.--Snowgrouse 18:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

This page may be best suited to a merge with the death page. At best it is a subtopic of death. Ramsquire 00:22, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the suggestion that this article ought to be merged with the article on Death. 04:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge it, I completely agree. Cream147 23:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed: merge it with 'Glorification of and fascination with death' in the 'Death' article. It adds very little to the subject in its current form. Mandaglione 10:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't noticed this merge proposal - I'm all for merging small articles like this normally, and it seems there is enough support, but keep in mind that death is a large article which will be huge when in a more complete state. This topic is only going to get a handful of lines, since summary style is used heavily to allow room to cover all the aspects. If there is more that can be said on this subject than what will fit in a brief summary I would reconsider merging, or at least see how things go as the article gets bigger. Richard001 10:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think we should rather put the 'Glorification of and fascination with death' part of the Death article into the Fascination with Death article, and instead add a link in the Death article (eg. See Fascination with Death). Bobber0001 16:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this - Fascination with Death is a good topic on its own

Adding glorification of death to the scope of the article looks like the only way of saving it to me. Much of the original contents are covered by Personification of death and the first section covers the already existing death deity. Alternatively it could become part of a larger article on death in culture, human death or one that specifically covers customs and superstitions relating to death. Richard001 00:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be kept on it's own. It is too long to be put into the death article, so we would either be making the death article unnecesarily long, or cutting out much of the information in this article. The death article is far too long as is.Darkcraft 00:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say the death article was far too long, though I don't think it should get too much larger either. There is still however a lot more to cover there. A section there on death in mythology would cover about half the content of this article, which only leaves a small section on Western culture. The article would probably be better merged into an one covering only death's cultural aspects, where there would be a little more room for details. As for what to do with it in the mean time, I'm not sure. Perhaps we should just declare no consensus and leave it for now? Richard001 08:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is no clear consensus I'm going to take the merge template down for now. The question may come up again when a death in culture article is split off, but for now there doesn't seem to be much support for a merge. Richard001 21:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of doomsday scenarios[edit]

Could use votes to save this article, thanks MapleTree 22:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC) I agree- the two articles should be merged. there leaves alot to be desired, and this is a piece of info about death[reply]

Ophelia[edit]

If anyone wants a good lead for expanding this article, just look up Ophelia and death. Her role in Hamlet has become iconic in a cultural glorification of death. Wrad 17:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there so much about Marilyn manson in this article?[edit]

Musician and artist Marilyn Manson often talks and bases his music and artwork around the way people are fascinated with death, as well as fame (in relation). He comments on how people will use death to gain a certain immortality in the minds of others (fame). His stage name is a reference to Marilyn Monroe and Charles Manson, one a symbol of fame (and early death) the other of murder. He has further commented that people are willing to die and kill if they know enough people are watching, to gain this immortality or fame. This extends into a social comment on martyrism, television, and the hypocrisy people show between their fascination and thus promotion of death, and their decryment of violence.

I'm sure there's much better candidates that could represent the western view of death in western culture then Marilyn Manson, And further more why does this garbage even go into how he got his damned stage name?

This is just some fanboy trying to pass off his teenage idol as some sort of revolutionary philosopher. Im a giant dick and want to bash anyone who holds a different opinion than me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.95.210 (talk) 23:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fascination with the end of the world[edit]

Where does Fascination with the end of the world fit in Wikipedia? Would it deserve its own article or a subsection here? I remember that the BBC did cover that story a couple of years ago. --Marianian^(talk) 17:21, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from article[edit]

There could be more in depth description of the fascination of death in other societies. There is one heading on this topic in Western Culture and although other cultures are mentioned briefly in the introductory paragraphs, there are no separate sections on other cultures and histories. The topic of romanticism is also underrepresented and could be expanded on to better represent the cultural implications of different ways of fascination with death. Also, there are viewpoints relating to the relevance in Christianity in several cultures but not in other religions around the world.Kraftal2 (talk) 02:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

repeated vandalism from 195.249.105.212[edit]

User 195.249.105.212 has committed two acts of obvious vandalism in the past 9.5 hours; the second came almost 8 hours after I reverted the first. The first consisted of inserting a stray blank to split a sensible word into two obvious word fragments. The second involved inserting some nonsense about the Carter Family into this article. If it happens again, I may ask someone to block that IP. DavidMCEddy (talk) 10:44, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

needs cutting[edit]

Much of this article is unsourced essayism. While nice for someone's class paper or blog or maybe a local weekly, it's not much of an encyclopedia entry.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 15:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]