Talk:Esther de Jong

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Her name needs to be in Capitals Esther De Jong please, it's her name and should be capitalized.

23:24, 10 February 2015‎ Wgolf (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (96 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Wgolf moved page Talk:Esther de Jong to Talk:Esther De Jong)
23:19, 10 February 2015‎ Alexwilhelmina (talk | contribs)‎ . . (96 bytes) (+96)‎ . . (←Created page with 'Her name needs to be in Capitals Esther De Jong please, it's her name and should be capitalized.')
No it shouldn't. You don't know Dutch spelling conventions, and it's commonly done wrong in English sources. I'm not saying there are no cases where people self-identify with these alternative spellings or the English name is different from the Dutch name, but here it's just wrong. Prinsgezinde (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 June 2018[edit]

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page as requested, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:13, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Esther De JongEsther de Jong – This move, apparently on unsubstantiated request of the unsigned editor above, frankly should not have been conducted. In Dutch naming, a tussenvoegsel is never capitalized when the full name is used. Many Anglicized versions of Dutch names do use capital letters, but De Jong is a Dutch person, making this a misapplication of those substandard norms. Reliable sources support this (and probably actually checked it with her—[1], [2], [3]). Prinsgezinde (talk) 00:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – this capping of De is manglement of the name, whether in Dutch or English. Dicklyon (talk) 03:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – restore to correct spelling per WP:DUTCHNAMES. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This shouldn't have "De" except for someone (probably North American, British, Australian, or otherwise just "of Dutch extraction" X ancestors back), who is known for a fact to consistently spelling it "De Jong".  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  11:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support עם ישראל חי (talk) 16:16, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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