Talk:El Ajedrecista

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"This robot was an early concept realised by the great Belgian industrial engineer Jan Van Den Broeke. --How so? Quevedo built it, didn't he? ANS: he DID built it, but the idea originally came from Jan Van den broeke--"

Please can someone who knows correct this? Thanks, DavidFarmbrough 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - needs work - Leonard G. 00:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the statement that it playsa unprecise. This contadicts the statement that it flawlessly obtains mate. Also, I could not find any such remark in both sources. Rainglasz (talk) 23:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shoddy phraseology[edit]

"The automaton does not deliver checkmate in the minimum amount of moves, nor always within 50 moves, because of the simple algorithm that calculates the positions. (See fifty move rule.) It did however checkmate the opponent flawlessly every time."

First of all 50 moves of what? The game? Or without a pawn being moves or a piece captured. The reference to the 50 move rule implies the latter. But in that case the phraseology should be cleaned up. Secondly what dies it mean about checkmating the opponent flawlessly? Every opponent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.182.132 (talk) 19:11, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. 18:15, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Debut in 1914 or 1915?[edit]

I've removed the statement that El Ajedrecista made its debut, "during the Paris World Fair of 1914." The earliest source I've found for this is a 2002 Dr Dobb's article.[1] I'm concerned that Dr Dobb's may not be reliable on this point. I've found no other evidence that there was a World's Fair in Paris in 1914.

Montfort, and his source, a magazine article by Perera Dominguez[2] don't mention a World's Fair, but do agree with the 1914 date.

According to the Scientific American article, published 6 November 1915, "The Paris University invited M. Torres to make an exhibition of several of his most interesting devices, and accordingly they were mounted in working order in a section of the new laboratory of Mechanical Physics. One of these devices which attracted much attention is a mechanical chess player." It doesn't say whether this took place in 1914 or 1915.

Ewart says, "In November 1915, just after the closing of the Eden Musee ended Ajeeb's long engagement there, a new mechanical chess player attracted much interest when introduced to the public at the Sorbonne in Paris by the Spanish inventor Leonardo Torres y Quevedo."[3] Allowing for slight variations in naming, Scientific American and Ewart agree that the debut was at the University of Paris. Whether it was in 1914 or 1915 remains unclear.

Can anyone provide a better reference as to the date of El Ajedrecista's debut in Paris?

  1. ^ Coles, L. Stephen (30 October 2002). "Computer Chess: The Dosophila of AI". Dr Dobb's. Retrieved 10 August 2014.
  2. ^ Perera Dominguez, Manuel (February 1997). "Ingenieros ilustres: Leonardo Torres Quevedo" (PDF). Ingenio. Sevilla: Asociación de Antiguos Alumnos de Ingenieros Industriales de Sevilla. Retrieved 10 August 2014. {{cite journal}}: line feed character in |publisher= at position 31 (help)(in Spanish)
  3. ^ Ewart, Bradley (1980). Chess: Man vs. Machine. San Diego: A.S. Barnes. p. 226. ISBN 978-0498021671. Retrieved 10 August 2014.

Worldbruce (talk) 08:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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