Talk:Duchy of Burgundy

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The last two paragraphs under "'Valois Burgundy'" refer to "the territory" without defining the exact terrritories that were lost to/reclaimed by the French crown. Much of the culture and imagery that the average person associates with Burgundy under the last two Valois Dukes was not produced in the ancestral duchy that was absorbed back into the French crown.

I feel this detail should be clarified, but am not sure yet of the protocols for larger revisions like this since I'm new to Wikipedia. Would anyone else be willing to jump in? Thanks. Krumhorns 05:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Merger of the Dukes of Burgundy with the Duchy of Burgundy

In most other articles the list of monarchs for a fief is listed with the fief itself. Why not merge these two articles into one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.73.54.27 (talk) 13:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

That would make sense.Oreo Priest ^talk 21:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Formatting

The format of the page is screwed up. If someone familar with how to fix it could do that it would be great. Thanks! 68.190.117.18 (talk) 02:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Burgundians

The article states: The kingdom had evolved from the territory ruled over by the Burgundians, a Scandic people who settled in Gaul in the late 4th century. This is not right. The Burdundians, an East Germanic tribe settled east of the Rhine before 407, somewhere around the river Main. In 436 their Kingdom at the upper Rhine was defeated by hunnic auxiliary troops (written down in the Nibelungenlied) and the Burgundians were resettled in 443. The Burgundians didn't arrive in the region around Dijon before that year. Radical (talk) 23:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

King Juan Carlos I of Spain's Coat of Arms (officially from 1977; in fact from 1971)

Despite the official white lie, king Juan Carlos's arms were granted in April 1971 by the Francoist dictatorship. Juan Carlos was Prince of Spain in 1971, a trumped-up Francoist ad hoc title. Either the cross of Burgundy and the Catholic King's yoke and arrows are on his coat of arms as badges of the National Movement, the Francoist amalgamation of Carlism and Falangism. The cross of Burgundy was marked down as the Carlist badge in c.1935. After perhaps emperor Charles V of Germany, no Spanish monarch bore the cross of Burgundy on his official coat of arms.

Citations

Although the article is mostly unbiased and generally factual, we really need to get citations for this article. For a subject of such importance, it is practically void of any source material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.197.41 (talk) 02:39, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Philip of Rouvres - possible error (in this article, or multiple others)

At the end of the "Dukes under the Capetians" section, the following is said of Philip of Rouvres:

Philip became ill with the plague, a disease that all but inevitably promised a swift and agonising death. Fully expecting to die, the young duke made his last will and testament on 11 November 1361; ten days later, he was dead, and with him, his dynasty.

However, both Philip of Rouvres' own article and that of his wife state that Philip died in a riding accident. This article states that Philip's father (also named Philip) died of a horse accident in 1346, and provides a detailed description of Philip of Rouvres' death by plague. So which is it? Either this article, or the other two, need to be corrected.

64.85.247.206 (talk) 05:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Unilateral changes to Burgundy-related articles

Hello all- A new user has been making seemingly unilateral page moves related to Burgundy. Please see here if interested: Talk:Burgundy#redirect_to_Duchy_of_Burgundy. Please feel free to move or copy any discussion to another page you deem more appropriate. Thanks in advance for any input. I also posted here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_France#Unilateral_changes_to_Burgundy-related_articles. Eric ^talk 19:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Pfalzgrafen von Burgund

There should be at least some information in the text saying that the Bourgogne region had been part of the Holy Empire and had an own "Pfalzgraf", an adminstrative position directly under the German king. --88.67.87.240 (talk) 11:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

I think what you are referring to is the County of Burgundy. Eric ^talk 15:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Unclear distinction between territory and personal union

This articles is not clearly seperated from the monarchs and the lands that they ruled in personal union. For example the Netherlands were not part of the duchy but only in personal union with the duke.

I propose that the references of Netherland etc are taken out of the info box, since the article is not about what the House of Valois-Burgundy held in personal union, as shown in the map.

As previous topics here on the talk page discussed, the confusion with the County of Burgund could be prevented and clarified through this.

I have added the year 1384 in the info box and some little specifications to make the dutchy as a distinct entity more visible. Nsae Comp (talk) 22:36, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Article contradicts itself?

In the lead section of the article, it states that the duchy emerged in the 9th century, but the infobox states that it was established in 918. Can someone explain this?Suasufzeb (talk) 23:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)