Talk:Donkey Kong Country/GA1

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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 06:41, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Just making sure you still want to do this, SNUGGUMS? ☠ JAGUAR ☠ 15:17, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I will get to this before April ends. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Infobox

• Please be consistent with either using DMY or MDY dates as per MOS:DATE. If using DMY, don't include commas.

• Removed all commas JAGUAR  10:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Lead

• see above note on dates

• Done JAGUAR  10:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Gameplay

• It would help to say how many lives the player starts with

• Added JAGUAR  10:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Something tells me the use of semi-colons in "However, the player can gain additional lives by collecting items scattered throughout the levels, including bananas; golden letters that spell out K–O–N–G; extra life balloons; and golden animal tokens that lead to bonus levels" should be replaced with commas, and maybe this could be split into two sentences.

• You're right - I replaced all semi-colons with commas. I initially tried splitting it into two sentences but it appeared choppy, but let me know if you want it changed? JAGUAR  10:44, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• The "not as powerful" bit from "Donkey is the larger of the two, and can defeat enemies more easily. Diddy is faster and more agile, but not as powerful." seems to already be implied; try something like "Donkey is the larger of the two, and can defeat enemies more easily while Diddy is faster and more agile"

• Thanks, re-worded JAGUAR  10:44, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• The entire third paragraph is uncited

• Added citations as I checked the sources and the game's manual and it turns out they mention the same stuff from the third paragph JAGUAR  10:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Plot

• I'm pretty sure this can be contained within "Gameplay" as much of it replicates that section

• Do you want me to merge it under Gameplay? I've never seen anyone do that but Donkey Kong Country has a lack of a plot, it just centres around their banana horde being stolen and it was amazing that I could squeeze that much out of it! JAGUAR  10:44, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• I would do so per WP:VG/GL, which states "if the plot is not too complex, it can be lumped in with the gameplay". Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Development

• Again, MOS:DATE

• No idea why the conversion template didn't work as I had to do all of them manually. Anyway fixed JAGUAR  10:50, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Not sure if "DK Jamz track listing" should be collapsed

• The list contains 50 songs and I think it would disrupt the flow if it was uncollapsed. GAs such as music-orientated Wipeout had collapsed music listings too, but let me know if you OK with it staying this way? JAGUAR  10:50, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Reception

• It would help to include a time range for the sales figure of 9 million copies

• According to this source the game sold six million copies within the "holiday seasion" but I couldn't find anything about a time range for the nine million. I assume it's the grand total so I've re-worded this sentence

Legacy

• "Donkey Kong Country eventually sold nine million units, making it the second-best selling SNES game"..... try to change the phrasing a bit since the figure was also given in "Reception", i.e. "After selling nine million units, Donkey Kong Country became the second-best selling SNES game"

• Re-structured JAGUAR  11:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Needs to comply with MOS:DATE

• Done JAGUAR  10:59, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

References

• Three dead links

• Done - archived two and replaced one JAGUAR  13:09, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Capitalize the "G" in AllGame

• Done JAGUAR  11:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• "IGN.com" should simply read IGN

• Done JAGUAR  11:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Are "Rare Gamer", "NowGamer", "OverClocked ReMix", and "rareware" reliable? I can't find anything about them on WP:VGRS

• OverClocked ReMix is good as I've used that on a few GAs before, however I checked the for NowGamer and it appears that they are not a fan site nor are their pages user-submitted content, so I think it'll be OK to keep that one in although I'll ask at WP:VG/RS just to be sure. It is a vital ref too - it's what I used to bring this up to GA. As for Rare Gamer, I discovered it wasn't reliable so I just removed it entirely JAGUAR  13:18, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• "MobyGames" is not reliable per WP:VGRS

• I kept it in there as initially it was only there for the sake of being in the review box but I've removed it entirely JAGUAR  13:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• "nintendolife.com" should read "NintendoLife"

• Done JAGUAR  11:05, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• "ScrewAttack" is on the "Situational sources" section of WP:VGRS, is this a good use for it?

• You're right, WP:VGRS said it could not be used to factual claims, so I've removed it JAGUAR  13:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Overall

• Well-written?

• Prose quality: Could be better. There are also three DAB links

• Fixed JAGUAR  13:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Manual of Style compliance: Needs some work

• Verifiable?

• Reference layout: Mostly good
• Reliable sources: One unreliable source and several questionable sources
• No original research: Uncited text and deadlinks need to be addressed

• Broad in coverage?

• Major aspects: The life count and original November 1994 release date needs to be included somewhere within the prose
• Focused: No excess detail

• Neutral?: I can't find any bias

• Stable?: All good

• Illustrated, if possible, by images?

• Appropriate licensing: The "n.a." fields in File:Donkey Kong Country advert 001.jpg should be filled out
• Relevance and captioning: For File:Donkey Kong Country Shot 2.png, I would indicate that Diddy Kong is the one in the air

• Both addressed JAGUAR  13:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

• Pass or Fail?: On hold for seven days. I'm mainly concerned with MOS and sources right now. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:18, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: thanks for the review! I've made an attempt to address everything, if you want to take a look? As I mentioned above I removed and replaced all unreliable/broken refs and cleaned up the pose along the way JAGUAR  13:23, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The only things left are too merge plot and add original release of November 1994 somewhere within article body. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

SNUGGUMS, per WP:VG/GL I have merged the plot under gameplay through a sub-header, as the guideline suggested. The November 1994 release is already mentioned in the lead as with all of the release dates but I mentioned it again at the begenning of the reception section as I thought it would be best suited there. I also mentioned it in the marketing section "from the game's release in November 1994 until April 1995" for safe measure. Please let me know if you want anything else done JAGUAR  21:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

The reason I said to include in body was because infobox had a specific date and lead had it as well (albeit not with citations). VG/GL also says to reference anything within gameplay, so stick a ref at the end of plot paragraph and we should be good. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Added two refs at the end of the plot section - both are the only simple overviews of the plot I could find. Anyway thanks again! JAGUAR  21:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Sure thing, now passing :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:55, 1 May 2015 (UTC)