Talk:Deer hunting

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December 2006

while it talks of dog's chasing deer, it does not mention a hunting party method where half the party walk through the bush in a straight line and "push" the deer out towards the "blockers" who are sitting waiting for a shot at the deer. this is a common method that works well, I have done it many times

--Jadger 19:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

PoV?

"Deer hunting has become essential in North America due to its dense deer population."

Nice NPoV violation there. There is a relatively dense deer population, which may cause some problems, but that doesn't make hunting them "essential" as the same could be said of humans in overpopulated areas, and of many other creatures. It depends on who you ask.

This should probably be fixed, but I'm not sure what it should be changed to.

72.195.158.180 01:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

If you think that does not make hunting essential, read what environmental organizations who study this issue have to say. Here:[1]--Counsel 15:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

This article starts out as "Deer hunting is the activity or sport"... I don't think any activity that causes pain to and/or death of an animal should be referred to as a sport. Hunters are definitely not sportsmen. Sadists, perhaps, but not sportsmen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.59.14.196 (talk) 18:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Sport is defined as "an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition." Under that definition, hunting qualifies. Hunters sometimes compete between themselves in an activity that requires physical exertion. The word `Sport` carries no moral connotations, which you seem to think it does. Gladiator fights were sport. Ovibos (talk) 03:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

"Deer hunting is the activity or sport of pursuing deer which began as early as 7,000 BC." Does this only refer to hunting with dogs? Where did the 7000 BC come from? Zebadiahjones (talk) 07:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge Proposal (merge Deer stalking into Deer hunting)

Oppose The art of Stalking is a highly specific activity, and should not be subsumed into a general article. Stag-Hunting as it is commonly called in the UK, I presume this is what is meant by Deer hunting, is something done with a pack of Deerhounds or Foxhounds, unarmed except the MDH, on Horseback. Whereas Stalking is an activity carried out on the hill without dogs and with rifles. Brendandh 21:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose with qualification Keep it as a separate and distinct practice, but only if the article is edited to sufficiently distinguish the Stag hunting and it's practices from other deer hunting. VanTucky 00:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Support Deer stalking is a form of deer hunting. The Deer hunting article should be improved and the stalking article, which is no more than a paragraph should form a section of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Airpear (talk • contribs) 15:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Deer stalking and deer hunting are considered as distinct activities in Britain the latter involving the use of dogs to hunt the deer. Deer stalking, as a term, may also be used to indicate the hunting of deer found specifically in Britain rather than in America or elsewhere. However the article could be sensitively merged into a clear paragraph or two in the deer hunting article. Essentially as VanTucky said, "Keep it as a separate and distinct practice, but only if the article is edited to sufficiently distinguish the Stag hunting and it's practices from other deer hunting." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kit Grier (talk • contribs) 19:02, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Oppose Deer hunting is a term used in the USA and other parts of the World for shooting deer with a rifle, bow or shotgun whereas in the UK it infers hunting with dogs. Although more usually called Stag Hunting it actually invloves the hunting of red deer of both sexes. In the UK deer stalking is the term used and differentiates itself from deer hunting in the Amercian sense because the main aim of the sport of to stalk to the closest practical proximity to the quarry before taking the shot at a stationary animal whereas this is not such a feature of hunting elsewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.124 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Support Deer stalking is a form of deer hunting. The deer hunting article should mention the terminology used in the British isles, as to not confuse people. Hunting is the general term, of which stalking is technique. What the British refer to as "Deer hunting" is also a way of hunting. What you refer to as "the American sense" is actually the meaning of the word in the rest of the world. Snabbkaffe (talk) 08:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Dog driving and weight

There is an awfully large section dealing with a forbidden practice. This places undue weight on a peripheral topic that should be mentioned in passing with a single sentence. -- Fyslee/talk 20:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

While I don't hunt deer with dogs the practice is not forbidden everywhere. Throughout the Southern U.S. deer are often hunted with deer. In Georgia it is the primary practice. This is because of the difficult terrain and large land tracts of public or leased land. In areas such as central and south Florida where large tracts are no longer available stand hunting is becoming more popular. This is due in large part to the privatization of hunting land. IMHO the entire article should be rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Airpear (talk • contribs) 15:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

New article: Reindeer hunting in Greenland

I have finally gone public with my new article:

• Reindeer hunting in Greenland

-- Fyslee/talk 08:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Worldwide PoV?

This article deals with two different things that use the same name. In some countries, "Deer hunting" is any method used to find and kill deer, while in other countries, "Deer hunting" refers specifically to hunting deer with dogs. The best way to handle this, in my opinion, is to create a disambiguation page, something like this:

Deer hunting my refer to:

• The general practice of finding and killing deer, called Deer Hunting in some countries.
• A method of stalking deer using scent dogs, called Deer Hunting in some countries.

Also, Deer stalking should be merged into this article; it's a type of deer hunting. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther! (contribs) 12:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Fence month

A guardian of this page rightly removed my earlier "archaic" citation of fence month, apparently because it read like a current description rather than a historical reference. I hope the revised wording is satisfactory, since the antiquity of closed seasons is worthy of mention.Fbarw (talk) 20:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Much better. MikeHobday (talk) 22:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Road hunting?

I have never heard of this road hunting except in redneck jokes. Is road hunting legal or the article inaccurate or what? 65.167.146.130 (talk) 14:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Germany?

Any objections to adding a section regarding deer hunting in Germany? The country has a unique hunting culture and methodology in relation to harvesting deer species. Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 22:56, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, go for it. Please remember to reference your edits since "unique hunting culture and methodology", like best, biggest, most popular, etc. would require a definitive reference. As well, this article is about hunting deer, not "harvesting deer species" so that would also have to be clear. Bob98133 (talk) 13:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'll see what I can put together. By unique, I mean the laws (strict licensing, hunting leases) and that the hunting culture is different than other societies (traditions, songs, and garb). By harvesting, I mean hunting in the usual sense of the word and not some type of agricultural process. Surv1v4l1st ^{(Talk|Contribs)} 16:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Poor pictures

The picture of TR is not a picture of deer hunting at all. Can't someone come up with some better pictures? BTW I was looking for an article on the modern hunting of wild or feral pigs to learn more about the topic, I'm not a hunter myself, and I see that WP's coverage of the whole topic of hunting is very poor. I'm sure that no one denies the importance of the topic. 99.35.55.170 (talk) 14:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, maybe we should remove it. Trouble is, the other pictures aren't the highest quality. There's a little (very little) of what you're looking for at boar hunting. MikeHobday (talk) 19:16, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hunting Whitetail Bucks

This section, by Southpark, which I have removed twice is without any references and reads like a how-to or magazine article, which is not what this article is about. Please do not restore this text to the article. If you feel it belongs, state why on this page. Thanks. Bob98133 (talk) 21:04, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Hunter orange

I don't question the info included in the tools section about this, but how is Hunter Orange a tool that helps in deer hunting? It may be a safety feature to avoid being mistaken for game, but it is not a hunting tool. Perhaps it should be in some other section? Bob98133 (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

History section needed

I feel like this article would be greatly improved by a section about the history of deer hunting, including historical hunting techniques (e.g. by indigenous populations). It's possible that there is an entire article about hunting throughout history, in which case that could be linked in the see also section. At any rate, some kind of historical background information would be helpful. Augurar (talk) 20:53, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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Improvements

The article does a good job to start off but then stops. It does not seem to provide enough information. I would talk about ways of hunting, places to hunt, why people hunt, and many other things that are involved in the sport of deer hunting.

Articles like http://sportsmansvintagepress.com/read-free/how-to-hunt-deer-table-contents/history-of-deer-hunting/ provide great information regarding the history of deer hunting and many other things that this Wikipedia page should include. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott1145 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Edits

I provided information on United States deer hunting. I went into moderate detail that would help any level of hunter from beginner to expert. I talked about different strategies and different areas to hunt deer. I also talked about how deer act in the rut. Bobjones3512 (talk) 00:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)