Talk:De La Salle Brothers Philippine District

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Former good article nomineeDe La Salle Brothers Philippine District was a Philosophy and religion good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
September 26, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed

Failed GA Nomination[edit]

As of 26 September 2006, per WP:WIAGA, here's my assessment to this article:

1. It is well written.

(a) it has compelling prose, and is readily comprehensible to non-specialist readers: → need improvement
Prose is not really clear to understand. I've made some copyedit to change the wording. Further improvement is needed to make this article compeling to any readers.
There some statements that I could not copyedit, because I don't understand what they mean. For example, "Over time, the Brothers established their congregation as being a group of full-time religious educators who have consecrated their lives for the education of the youth.".
(b) it follows a logical structure, introducing the topic and then grouping together its coverage of related aspects; where appropriate, it contains a succinct lead section summarising the topic, and the remaining text is organised into a system of hierarchical sections (particularly for longer articles) → fail
The lead section is definitely not summarizing the article, does not give context and cannot be stand alone. Reading only the lead section, I left in puzzle of what the hell is this institute? school? church? brotherhood? I haven't got any clue from the lead section. The first sentence is a definition to itself: "The De La Salle Brothers in the Philippines is part....,known as the De La Salle Brothers." (???)
I've made a grouping of three section into subsections and called it History section. This is to make a nice way of reading this article.
(c) it follows the Wikipedia Manual of Style including the list guideline → pass
No visible WP:MOS violation appears.
(d) necessary technical terms or jargon are briefly explained in the article itself, or an active link is provided. → pass
This article does not really suffer from technical/specialized jargons.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

(a) it provides references to any and all sources used for its material → need more
I've put tags where facts are given without source. Section Background and History (from 3 sections that I grouped, see 1.(b) above) are the most important one in this article to give understanding of the subject, but unfortunately it is unsourced. I've put a big tag there. Please do not consider it as discouraging, but rather to improve this article further.
(b) the citation of its sources using inline citations is required → weak pass
Inline citation is given, but style is not perfect. See WP:CITET for better citation style. More inline citations are needed to be used in the page, not just listing in the Reference section.
(c) sources should be selected in accordance with the guidelines for reliable sources → fail
One citation cannot be verified, i.e. source number 2. What is it?
(d) it contains no elements of original research. → passes

3. It is broad in its coverage.

(a) it addresses all major aspects of the topic (this requirement is slightly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required by WP:FAC, and allows shorter articles and broad overviews of large topics to be listed) → need expansion
I think the article is still too thin as its history is quite meaningful. What are their achievements to the community? How do local Filipinos think now to the school? Speaking about the school, how is the school now organized?
(b) it stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary details (no non-notable trivia). → pass

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

(a) viewpoints are represented fairly and without bias → weak pass
I'm missing about other third parties views to the school. News?
(b) all significant points of view are fairly presented, but not asserted, particularly where there are or have been conflicting views on the topic. → no comments

5. It is stable, i.e. it does not change significantly from day to day and is not the subject of ongoing edit wars. → pass

Seems okay from the history.

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

(a) the images are tagged and have succinct and descriptive captions → fail
I can't believe it. Almost all images, except one, are copyrighted and no fair use rationale given at all. And there are 13 images!
(b) a lack of images does not in itself prevent an article from achieving Good Article status. → not relevant

Conclusion: failed for GA. If you disagree with my reviews, then you can always ask for other reviewers' opinion in WP:GA/R, or improve the article, resolve all matters that I've explained above and renominate it back. I think, this article has good prospect for GA after I read the whole article. It just needs expansions, rewriting and don't forget about suitable images for WP. Happy editing and cheers. — Indon (reply) — 15:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This article really ready for GA, the nominator got carried away with nominating. --Mithril Cloud 09:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:DLS-Paco.gif[edit]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Philbrother.png[edit]

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Image copyright problem with Image:StLS1921.jpg[edit]

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"Both were never seen again"[edit]

Egbert Xavier is one of these people. Who is the second? Varlaam (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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