Talk:Curb stomp

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Recreated[edit]

It's honestly better than nothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevorp1594 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article is in worse shape than the orginal one, which was deleted. I got rid of most of the garbage, but much work is still needed if this article is going to stay. Spylab (talk) 20:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed[edit]

The idea of "curb stomping" seems to be well-known primarily because of its inclusion in American History X. It also seems there's a lot of urban lore about the practice. I've seen a few references here and there to it occuring in real life, but can anyone provide some hard information on the subject? --Holdek ^(talk) 01:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am an Australian and I have never heard of this practice being called a "smiley" here. Nathan 203.51.151.156 13:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check http://forums.comicbookresources.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=25 for numerous examples of how "curbstomping" is used as a synonyme to "completely dominating an opponent". 213.65.63.178 17:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I first encountered curb stomping in the 1983 book "Gardens of Stone" by Nicholas Proffitt. The incident was explicitly described, but I don't think it made it into the 1987 movie version. Anyone got an earlier reference? altjira 02:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just because you haven't heard the term as "smiley" doesn't mean that's not what it is. I have heard the term used as "california smiley" quite a long time ago. It's probably an American -- not an Australian -- thing.

-- Klasanov —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.104.78.163 (talk) 10:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Source?[edit]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=curb+stomp

Sorry, but I honestly don't think that ANYTHING from urbandictionary.com counts as a source. have you actually looked at some of the definitions on there? Foxphyre 07:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

News Article from San Diego USA[edit]

http://www.sdcitybeat.com/article.php?id=1094

In September 2002, two racist skinheads, Waylon Kennell and James Grlicky, assaulted a migrant farm worker in San Diego County, curbstomping him on a brick. The victim suffered serious injuries, including brain damage, loss of memory, and almost every bone in his face was fractured. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SubMensa (talk • contribs) 17:18, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Method of execution?[edit]

All the other methods of execution within this category appear to have been used as a government sanctioned or government prescribed method of extinction. This does not seem to fall into this category, perhaps a methods of murder categorisation would seem to be be more logical? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.179.80.3 (talk) 18:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Steel-toed boots[edit]

Is there any reason the boots have to be steel-toed? Since the term is "stomping", I'd assumed it'd involve the sole of the foot. If it involved the toe wouldn't it be "kicking"? — TheJames 10:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

Why is it spelled "curb" rather than "kerb"? Presumably the ideal setting for this activity is a sidewalk kerb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.198.220.100 (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Curb (road). Spylab 00:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Curbing[edit]

This article was previously deleted according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Curb stomping. It appears to have been recreated with the same content. Editors interested in the retention of this article should work to improve it to make be meet Wikipedia policy or it stands a fair chance of coming up for AfD again. -Verdatum (talk) 21:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and also note Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Curbing, again, essentially the same article. -Verdatum (talk) 21:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Randall Mark Townsend[edit]

Randall Mark Townsend was murdered in Tacoma Washington in this method. http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/volksfront/volksfront_report.pdf There are multiple sites listing the details of this crime. As rare as it may be it is real, and deserves a place in Wikipedia. 76.30.198.184 (talk) 23:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I probably agree it should be on Wikipedia, but that's not really the correct standard to use. Lots of things have happened at one time or another (I once read an article about a guy being beaten to death with a coconut, but we don't have a Wikipedia article dedicated to the subject of coconut beatings). The standard is whether it happens regularly enough to be deemed a distinct practice. I can see both sides of the argument there - if the film American History X didn't exist then I doubt we would have this article. It's something a lot of people used to talk about (almost always because of that film) but which doesn't happen very often - and arguably even on many of the occasions it has happened it's probably been someone who was "inspired" in a hideous way by the film. But the film does exist, people do talk about it, so I guess it deserves an article - will it still be relevant 20 years from now, though? I doubt it. Lewdswap (talk) 14:04, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to point out I heard about the practice independent of American History X and as far as I'm aware, it was done by Nazi forces in France. That may not be true, but it's what I heard. It's definitely a known method of execution/torture, though and definitely was long before American History X. AHX simply heard of the practice and showed it on film.

I think there's also an American centred view here about it. It was used in the UK by Skinheads long before AHX was around, too. It's definitely more known and referenced in Britain than the US from long before AHX. 86.2.213.86 (talk) 23:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have sources for that? I struggle to find any but the three undisputed examples in the article. I’m sure it’s been done other times but is there any documentary evidence of that? Otherwise it may have been commonly talked about in theory or as a rumour but never actually done. At least some autopsy reports or trial evidence would make specific examples public knowledge Harsimaja (talk) 13:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Other Definition[edit]

I have heard this used as a way to break an arm or leg, spanning the limb across the gap and then stamping on the unsupported part. If I recall correctly, sometimes used in relation to gambling as a way of punishing a cheat, especially in mob-controlled casinos. Unfortunately, I can't recall where I heard this, so I can't source it; anyone else?

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 15:34, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be a photograph of this?[edit]

It does have some encyclopedic value, but my honest WP:OPINION is that it might be a bit too uncensored, though if someone were to add it, i wouldn't revert it. ' DarmaniLink (talk) 03:08, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]