Talk:Crockett's Theme

History

The article currently reads: "Although not a big success in the US, the song was a smash hit in the UK, reaching #2 in the singles chart there. It was not originally called "Crockett's Theme", but its success led Jan Hammer to feature the original version on his 1987 album Escape From Television." This raises a few questions: What was the original title, when did the title change, what was the title on the single release that reached #2 in the charts? Was it really the album release that prompted the change of title (the article seems to imply that it was)? Cool if someone who knows can make the article a bit clearer on this. Thanks. --Kvaks (talk) 11:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

To answer the first part of your questions, (or try to), the song maybe didn't have a different title, but rather had a different length or beat to it (i.e. 2:30 mins instead of 1:00 min). That might have been the reason the original version was included in the CD release. Look at the Miami Vice theme, their is the one minute version (TV theme) and a 2:20 minute version (full theme) of it, same song, same title, just different lengths. The rest of your questions I can't really answer. _{El Greco}^(talk) 21:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Under 'Cover Versions' there is a reference to the Flight of the Conchords song 'Inner City Pressure' opening as a parody of Crockett's Theme. I would suggest that this is not the case: 'Inner City Pressure' is in its entirety a parody of the Pet Shop Boys song 'West End Girls' including the opening, which is very similar to the Pet Shop Boys song. I would think that this reference should be deleted. Others would seem to agree, indeed, the page related to the episode of FOTC in which the 'Inner City Pressure' appears directly compares the song to 'West End Girls' . Cheers -- --Trevor Hirst (talk) 18:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Trevor, I agree. It's not a parody of Crockett's Theme.

References

NEW WAVE AND THE 1970s

Once again, a Wiki article is tweaked, without back-up examples and reliable links, to try and tie in a 1980s icon with the previous decade. Very odd. I can't find any comparison between the Miami Vice theme and "New Wave" instrumental hits of the late 1970s (what exactly were these hits?) and the term is something of a "catch all" anyway. Very disappointing that this trend is so pervasive here and so non-encyclopedic.

(Solidsandie (talk) 02:30, 17 December 2012 (UTC))

Beyond the fact that 1984 has nothing to do with the late 1970s, your original logic is where I found fault—declaring that a television theme can't be considered part of a genre is ridiculous. I don't care either way for what genre the thing ends up being called, but at least make some sense when you're attacking something. GRAPPLE X 02:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

But there is controversy about whether New Wave is a genre anyway - it covers many diverse styles of music. Crockett's Theme is primarily a TV theme which had great chart success in certain parts of the world. TV themes being released and enjoying chart success were not peculiar to the "New Wave" era. I have studied Wikipedia extensively and am a great devotee of the encyclopedia but I do believe we need to stick strictly to the facts. I'm sorry if I have offended you.

(Solidsandie (talk) 02:43, 17 December 2012 (UTC))

By all means, I'm supportive of keeping everything sourced; I just don't see the value in the logic that TV themes are genre-less. Unfortunately the only reliable source I'm familiar with for music genres (AllRovi) doesn't provide their opinion on this particular piece or I'd have sourced one, if you have a good source that describes a genre then that's just as valid. It's probably best to add something (sourced of course) though, as there will always be WP:GWARRIORs who'll restore any blanking of the genre fields. GRAPPLE X 02:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Of course! But it does seem rather odd that everything must fall into neat categories in my humble opinion. Perhaps this is symptomatic of the computerized times we live in! I fully accept that in America the 1980s are referred to as "New Wave", but the music of the decade was pretty diverse. My considered opinion (how I ponder things!) is that Miami Vice was groundbreaking, and reflected (and indeed influenced) the style of the mid-to-late 1980s. I think it really was "stand out" and to link it to the late 1970s (without even quantifying the fact) seemed bizarre. I don't object to the term "New Wave", I just believe that it should not be seen as something hard and fast, following a set of rules, instrumentation and chord formations which was established in X year and lasted throughout the 1980s. It was vibrant, changing, and diverse.

(Solidsandie (talk) 03:05, 17 December 2012 (UTC))

Hammer was asked to remake the track in 2006 with R&B singer TQ.

Really? This is not referenced. Although I can't provide a proper reference either, I always understood that Jan Hammer wasn't asked to work on the 2006 movie and that's why the Jan Hammer project feat. TQ was created, so that, if the movie producers wouldn't let him participate in the movie, he'd put a release out there for himself anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.244.120.30 (talk) 21:00, 18 November 2013 (UTC)