Talk:China–Myanmar relations

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Did you know... that China has sought to cultivate strong ties with Burma by providing extensive aid and vetoing a UN resolution proposed in 2007 condemning Burma for human rights violations?

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Wikipedia

Ming dynasty war[edit]

http://www.jstor.org/stable/20062612?seq=5

http://www.academia.edu/3768911/Crucible_of_War_Burma_and_the_Ming_in_the_Tai_Frontier_Zone_1382-1454_77

Page 18, pages 25-27

http://www.gutenberg-e.org/yang/pdf/yang-chapter5.pdf

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2010/09/13/linga-bell-linga-bell-jingle-all-the-way/

http://www.jstor.org/stable/20071832?seq=10

Yue Feng (岳鳳)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/person/3925

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2582?hl=%22Meng-yang%22 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2103?hl=%22Teng-yue%22 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2219?hl=%22Mang-shi%22

Liu Ting (劉綎)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/person/2039

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2220?hl=%22Cui+Ting-shi%22 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2318 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/283?hl=%22Liu+Ting%22 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2217?hl=%22Liu+Ting%22 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2216?hl=%22Liu+Ting%22 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2310?hl=%22Liu+Ting%22

Ava River (阿瓦江)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/69

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2578?hl=%22Ava+River%22

Ava-Burma Pacification Superintendency (緬甸宣慰使司)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/68

Burma (緬國)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/173

Long-chuan Pacification Commission (隴川宣撫司)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/998

The forum is not to be used as a source but it points to a good source.

Lu-chuan Pacification Superintendency (麓川宣慰使司)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1024

Lu-chuan/Ping-mian Pacification Superintendency (麓川/平緬宣慰使司)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1023

Mu-bang Pacification Superintendency (木邦宣慰使司)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1212

Mu-bang Prefecture (木邦府)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1213

Meng-mi (孟彌)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1139

Meng-mi (孟密)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1138

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?375944-Need-help-with-Burmese-sources-on-the-Ming-Burmese-conflicts-of-1580s-90s

History of Ming ch. 247

十年冬，緬甸犯永昌、騰越，巡撫劉世曾請濟師。明年春，擢綎遊擊將軍，署騰沖守備事。

十一年閏二月，緬甸犯雲南。詔移子龍永昌。木邦部耿馬奸人罕虔與嶽鳳同為逆，說緬酋莽應裏內侵

Biography of Wanli Emperor ch. 20

十一年春正月壬戌，敕嚴邊備。閏二月甲子，俺答子乞慶哈襲封順義王。緬甸寇永昌。

十九年春正月，頃甸寇永昌、騰越。

http://newasia.proj.hkedcity.net/resources/25/mingshi/index.phtml?section_num=247

http://archive.ihp.sinica.edu.tw/ttscgi/ttsquery?0:0:mctauac:TM%3D%BCB%DF%5E

http://www.zhuyinlibrary.com/category/history/type_22/pageNum_0/topic_134/post_7937.html

http://zh.goldenmap.com/劉綎

Blogs and forums (don't use as sources)

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!cRq6eTOVGETZ29O5i8M-/article?mid=144

http://blog.joins.com/media/folderlistslide.asp?uid=homeosta&folder=1&list_id=13079227

http://www.myforum.com.hk/discuz/thread-306910-2-1.html

http://imagediet.wordpress.com/page/2/

Luchuan–Pingmian campaigns

Republic of china burma border dispute[edit]

滇緬南段未定界調查報告

http://www.worldcat.org/title/dian-mian-nan-duan-wei-ding-jie-diao-cha-bao-gao/oclc/23245439

http://books.google.com/books/about/滇緬南段未定界調查報告.html?id=zpEvAAAAMAAJ

Page 47

When in the 1930s, Chiang Kai-shek started raking up trouble in respect of the Burma boundary, the British visualised the things to come

http://books.google.com/books?id=z3sdAAAAMAAJ&q=When+in+the+1930s,+Chiang+Kai-shek+started+raking+up+trouble+in+respect+of+the+Burma+boundary,+the+British+visualised+the+things+to+come&dq=When+in+the+1930s,+Chiang+Kai-shek+started+raking+up+trouble+in+respect+of+the+Burma+boundary,+the+British+visualised+the+things+to+come&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BeiWUL_3LuXj0QGX94DgBA&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA

Title India accepts China's challenge Author Sitaram Johri Publisher Himalaya Publications, 1963 Original from the University of Michigan Digitized Nov 2, 2006 Length 326 pages

Rajmaan (talk) 16:04, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

hello'[edit]

i am from myanmar. thanks for help myanmar ,but this is your economist. we are your gold mind.

ဘုန္းမင္းသူ 01:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Intro 2nd paragragh ~ currently writes "Chinese-sponsored debt-traps"?[edit]

This is politically controversial but there has been no hard data proving debt trap diplomacy. Stats only proves the opposite and instead all mostly a western/trump administration pushed narrative that was never really justified under objective light. However that is according to a few western media articles that digs deeper into the evidence and shows it's much more of a concern or smear rather than an actual reality.

Sources below

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/data-doesn-t-support-belt-and-road-debt-trap-claims-20190502-p51jhx.html

https://qz.com/1391770/the-anxious-chorus-around-chinese-debt-trap-diplomacy-doesnt-reflect-african-realities/

https://amp.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/3008799/truth-about-sri-lankas-hambantota-port-chinese-debt-traps

Hence I think it's inappropriate to put in "Chinese-sponsored debt-traps" in the intro as they are unsubstantiated smears. However that is up for you guys to discuss as I don't care nor want for a petty dragged out edit war whenever it comes to topics on the percieved enemies of America. But feel free to reply and confirm final actions on the current article intro, with proper reasoning. 49.195.131.4 (talk) 06:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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