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Why no imagery using historical footage?[edit]

That would lend a great deal of actuality to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.74.175.254 (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Still need it. Ukrained2012 (talk) 11:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Death Figures[edit]

There are three bulletized death figure statements for the numbers dead of the liquidators. Are there any specific statistics that show what amount of these deaths can be attributed directly to their work on the reactor? In particular, are there statistics for the expected numbers of deaths from equivalent populations of, say, normal industrial workers or even farmers in the area against which these death rates could be inspected? It doesn't sound too far out of whack for 10% of the liquidators to have died in the intervening years, given the hardships of normal industrial work or the presumed age spread of those involved in the work. SkoreKeep (talk) 04:24, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kyshtym 'liquidators'[edit]

According to this piece [1] (Inside the Zone attributed to ALEXANDER ZAITCHIK) about the Kyshtym disaster aftermath), the term 'liquidator' was in use at that time (September, 1957). That they were 'drafted' for dangerous work suggests derivation of term may go waaaay back. (Haven't pursued that further.) Twang (talk) 22:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a meticulous self-promotion by a young Russian immigrant( We need more sources originating from Kyshtym disaster times. Ukrained2012 (talk) 11:05, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Italics?[edit]

I sugggest writing the Liquidator term in italics in all Chernobyl-related articles due to its multiple meanings in English-speaking world. In Ukrainian though "liquidator" unambiguosly refers to the accident. Happy edits, Ukrained2012 (talk) 22:56, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects (and name for future split article)[edit]

For now, I'm redirecting those here. In future, I'd suggest a split article from the extra-long Chernobyl disaster describing relief operation itself: events after the immediate accident and before long-term consequences. Wishes, Ukrained2012 (talk) 11:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

60,000 dead liquidators hoax[edit]

The following segment of the article...

"25,000 of the Russian liquidators are dead..., about the same in Ukraine, and 10,000 dead in Belarus ..., which makes a total of 60,000 dead (10% of the 600,000 liquidators) ..."

...reads at if 60k Liquidators had died from fatal radiation exposure, which is absolute nonsense. A sentence should be included clarifying that these people are dead because every human on earth dies one way or another, and the more decades pass, the more people who were involved in any event die. That they died BECAUSE of the radiation is not proven.

In the wake of the disaster, the UN Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) and others undertook a co-ordinated effort to follow up on health effects. In 2006, after two decades of monitoring they outlined the health effects; of the firefighters exposed to the huge core doses and incredibly toxic smoke, 28 died from acute radiation sickness. A further 15 perished from thyroid cancer. Despite aggressive monitoring for three decades, there has been no significant increase in solid tumours or delayed health effects, even in the hundreds of thousands of minimally protected cleanup workers who helped purge the site after the accident. In the words of the 2008 UNSCEAR report: “There is no scientific evidence of increases in overall cancer incidence or mortality rates or in rates of non-malignant disorders that could be related to radiation exposure.

Requested move 8 January 2016[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 05:30, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Liquidator (Chernobyl) → Chernobyl liquidators – In English, liquidators are people who dispose of assets in multiple contexts; this meaning is quite different. English readers are more likely to be looking for this topic under Chernobyl than "liquidators" but keep this one as a redirect. Per the article, the formal title was "participant in liquidation of the Chernobyl NPP accident consequences" so we're not literally translating anyway. (This came up in a discussion with Johnbod of the category name, Category:Chernobyl liquidators. RevelationDirect (talk) 11:35, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support proposal makes better sense.--Jahaza (talk) 15:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Source of "some struggled for years to have their participation officially recognized"?[edit]

The opening of the article states:

>Surviving liquidators are qualified for significant social benefits due to their veteran status. Many liquidators were praised as heroes by the Soviet government and the press, while some struggled for years to have their participation officially recognized.

Is there a source of the "while some struggled for years to have their participation officially recognized" statement? I cannot see references to such in the article except for instances after the dissolution of the SU. I believe the statement should be clarified or sourced. Xorkle (talk) 13:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]