Talk:Cheap Thrills (Big Brother and the Holding Company album)

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Zappa song and album[edit]

Cheap Thrills was the name of a Frank Zappa song, as well as the name of a later compilation album of Zappa's. Should this be mentioned? Calaf 02:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Live[edit]

Most (all?) of the songs are playes live before an audience. Where is that? Were there studio recordings of the same songs before? I hoped to find that in this article. Regards, --82.113.121.138 (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Needs clarification about original nude album cover idea[edit]

While this article states that idea for the original nude album cover idea was the bands and was rejected by the record company, the article Big Brother and the Holding Company states that it was the record companies idea and it was the band that rejected it. So which was it? This needs to be cleared up in whichever article has it wrong. --67.101.218.192 (talk) 21:53, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel[edit]

Personnel list appears to be for the CD release, not the original vinyl. as with tracks, the personnel list should reflect both the original credits, and reissue credits.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 20:37, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 March 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved Music1201 talk 01:54, 5 April 2016 (UTC) (non-admin closure) @Sphilbrick: please close these when you move them, thanks. wbm1058 (talk) 11:27, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]



WP:Naming conventions music: multiple albums. (Also this one of several albums appears to have been moved into what should be the disambiguation slot, and the dab page moved out in 2013 without any discussion.) In ictu oculi (talk) 16:56, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

While we are at it, there are 4 notable songs called "Cheap Thrills" the (Sia song) should have the artist name as well. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:01, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Seems to have no claim to 'Primary' and is an inherently 'multi-use' name. Pincrete (talk) 18:11, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is clearly not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC in terms of page views; despite being at the base name "Cheap Thrills", it gets only a fraction of the page views among ambiguous topics.[1]--Cúchullain t/c 19:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – nowhere near primary topic. SSTflyer 14:23, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. — Film Fan 14:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Mono version[edit]

The monophonic version of the album was reissued in 2012 on vinyl and it's still available as of 2016. Is it still considered a rare collector's item? Alvabass (talk) 07:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What evidence is there that "Ball and Chain" was recorded at Winterland?[edit]

The claim I've just removed was unsourced, though apparently there used to be some kind of footnote. It's not the same version as on the Winterland '68 live release (I just checked). So what reason is there to believe it was recorded at Winterland? If it's identical to another live recording known to be from Winterland, this should be noted.Jbening (talk) 00:55, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see the claim was added by an IP address on May 14, 2013 and apparently not questioned since.Jbening (talk) 01:00, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I made the original claim, but I didn't have an account back in the day. I don't remember the source. Well, I don't mean to sound pedantic, but Ball and Chain version is pretty much the same version was released in Winterland '68 release. You probably said its not the same version because you probably listened to the intro solo. Thats the only difference between the two versions : a small part of the intro solo was edited for Cheap Thrills release. The rest of the song is exactly the same. Of course the mixing is different: Janis vocals is more "distant" in Cheap Thrills release. Big Brother is one of my favorites band from that period, and I've listened both versions so many times, that I can tell you this small fraction of guitar solo intro is the only difference between Winterland/Cheap Thrills version. At the end of 2018 Sony released "Sex, Dope and Cheap Thrills" with outtakes from Cheap Thrills session, and it feature an unreleased live version of Ball and Chain, and guess what, it came from Winterland 68 shows. Actually Winterland shows consisted of 4 sets (2 sets per night), and Winterland 68 is only a compilation of that material. Anyway, I removed the part that about Ball and Chain being recored at Fillmore, because the source indicated is obviously only basing the claim in the album notes, and we all know the album notes is not trusted. Instead I quoted the official press release that only says: "though only “Ball and Chain” was actually recorded in concert." Its better that way. --Valverde.pr (talk) 00:23, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I just found an info from the producer of Sex, Dope and Cheap Thrills on Steve Hoffman's forum where he confirms it was recored at Winterland. I already edited the post.--Valverde.pr (talk) 01:02, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]