Talk:Canadian hip hop

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What is the article about ?[edit]

Is it about a new kind of hip hop that people refer to as "Canadian hip hop" ? If so, I think the article should start like this:

Canadian hip hop is a kind of hip hop originated in Canada.

Otherwise, the article should just be renamed "Hip hop in Canada". What do you think about this ? Cheers Nicolas1981 (talk) 06:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All of the articles about hip hop in individual countries are titled in the current format. While you do have a potentially valid point, it applies equally to all of them, not just here, and so this article shouldn't be moved in isolation — they need to either all be moved to the format you propose, or none. Bearcat (talk) 18:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

some examples of "wheres the WP:OR?[edit]

Heres some starters for ya. Active Banana (talk) 02:20, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Artists such as Devon, Maestro Fresh-Wes and Dream Warriors did manage, for a brief time in the late '80s and early '90s, to break into the mainstream. "
How is this original research, when it's simply stating a fact whose accuracy is demonstrated by the rest of the paragraph? Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The decision was controversial, and hurt the Canadian hip hop scene considerably"
How is this "original research, when it's simply stating a fact whose accuracy is demonstrated by the rest of the paragraph? Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • " Rap also began to surface in Canadian mainstream pop in the early 1990s. "
How is this "original research, when it's simply stating a fact whose accuracy is demonstrated by the rest of the paragraph? Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "had some success on MuchMusic with "Check the O.R." in 1993, but did not receive widespread radio airplay "
How is this original research, when it can be explicitly verified that the song failed to chart in RPM? Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "That began to change in 1996, when the Urban Music Association of Canada was formed to build the domestic and international profile of Canadian urban music. The following year, Dubmatique broke through as the first Quebec rap band to top Canada's francophone pop charts, and some controversy erupted in Toronto when Milestone was again passed over for an urban radio station on its second application. Instead, the CBC was awarded 99.1 to move its existing Radio One station, CBLA, from the AM band — and, ominously, this was believed at the time to be the last available FM frequency in the city. The CRTC decision was not met with as much uproar as there had been in 1990, because the ruling was not seen as much of a shock; indeed, it seemed like a foregone conclusion that the CBC would receive the frequency.
Additional references needed here, admittedly, but there's not one letter in that entire paragraph that's staking out an "original research" thesis rather than simply stating the facts as they lay. Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The most notable Canadian hip hop album during this era"

Simple statement of fact. Can you name any other Canadian hip hop album of any cultural significance during that era? Bearcat (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Poet laureate[edit]

Canadian hip-hop artist Cadence Weapon was the poet laureate of Edmonton from 2009 to 2011, which is definitely a first for Canadian hip-hop, and hip-hop in general. Not important enough to be mentioned in the article? --RaygunShaun (talk) 03:42, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Canadian hip hop/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I think that this only talks about the late history of hip hop in Canada, although there was a definite scene prior to the recording artists. Perhaps some discussion on the crews that helped start it in, with references to the bboy crews, graf crews and the DJ/MC crews. In Toronto, some examples would be West Side Breakers, Four (??) Aces, Magnetic Rockers, Flip Rock, for some breaking crews. Then on the DJ tip, I'm thinking Sunshine, Killowatt, TKO, to name a few. These were the DJs and crews that inspired many of the "first" rappers, but they never get any shout outs, cuz it was ultra competitive in those early days, and nobody acknowledges how they got into it. These were the crews that were our urban radio back in the day.

Last edited at 01:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 10:48, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

In order to include content about these people, we would need to be able to cite it to reliable source coverage about them. It's not our role to conduct or publish our own original research about unsung pioneers who didn't get the media coverage they might have deserved — we rely on what can be verified by published coverage, and if that can't be provided for somebody then we can't cover them here. I'd certainly love to see a Have Not Been the Same-style book about the underrepresented early roots of Canadian hip hop, but without media coverage to support the content we can't be the originators of unverified and otherwise unpublished information. Bearcat (talk) 17:25, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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