Talk:Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform

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Edits by Benkenobi18[edit]

Benkenobi18, you don't get to make this article into a public relations press release for the organization. That is not Wikipedia's role. Describing the organization's notable activities is encyclopedic. Listing the organization's staff members (none of whom have encyclopedia articles except Ms. Gray) is not. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 16:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removing sourced material (7! sources), intended to be used to improve the article and to expand it isn't part of what Wikipedia is about either. Why did you do this? There was no reason to remove the sources and revert me. If you were concerned about certain sections f the edits, you could simply have edited the article, not just revert me. As for labeling my prior edit as advertising, I'll let other wikipedians determine this. You reverted a good faith edit without cause, and removed pertinent information, including that of the name of the other co-founder of the organization, and their connection to Gregg Cunningham. Why? Why is pertinent information (and just that information considered advertising? Benkenobi18 (talk) 18:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've misused sources to say things that they don't say[1][2], added unsourced[3][4] and non-notable content[5](with links to the wrong targets) and removed sourced content using false[6] and disingenuous[7] reasoning. This is unacceptable. Sean.hoyland - talk 19:09, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to give you some advice at User_talk:Benkenobi18#Stephanie_Gray. You didn't take it. I'll try again. When making edits to an article within scope of discretionary sanctions, consider what those edits would look like when presented as evidence at an arbitration enforcement request. If they could be construed as the edits of someone violating WP:NOTADVOCATE or other policies, don't make the edits. Sean.hoyland - talk 20:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have taken this into account, and I stand by my edits as both an accurate and neutral presentation of the subject matter at hand. I suggest that you take a look at my original edit, which stripped the page down to the factual evidence associated with the organization. I am not sure how readding the name of the co-founder, their connection with CBR in the United States and removing incorrect (and erroneous) information left in the article counts as 'ad copy'. Benkenobi18 (talk) 23:37, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Arrests[edit]

I want to be clear that I don't think that section should be seen to reflect negatively on the organization - I think it points out an important free speech issue and the case has apparently ensured that the right of free speech is recognized in Canadian airports. The court was very clear that their speech was protected by the CCRF. If there's a way to better word that, feel free to make edits. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 05:30, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"extremist" organization?[edit]

It is inappropriate to label this organization as "extremist" in the article, since it gives the article a pro-choice bias. The term "extremist" is typically means a person who uses violence to get their way, which is not what this organzation does. Graphic imagery is nothing new in the pro-life movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.119.16 (talk) 04:10, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My last edit removed that label in favour of language that simply describes the actions of the organization. That's clearly not WP:NPOV to label the actions "extremist," for the reasons you cite and others. Balleyne (talk) 06:15, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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