Talk:CKO

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POV/Citation issues[edit]

Current text in the lead 2nd para and 1st para of History section mostly appear to be uncited opinons about the CRTC's role with respect to CKO. Is there anything that can be salvaged and supported from this material that isn't at variance with WP policy? Dl2000 01:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most, if not all, of the material can be supported with proper citations. And there may be merit in some of the requests for needed citations. I'm confused by the first request for a citation related to one sentence in the lead paragraph. It is clear to most folks with basic knowledge of Canadian broadcasting system that private sector radio networks were not encouraged [to say the least] and that dated back to the beginning of the medium, and one odd railroad radio network. The rest of the requests for citations make some sense. Can corrections be made the following day when citations are at hand? Is that allowed, I'm new to the Wikipedia culture?

Let me get a bit more specific about a few of the other requests for citations. The seemingly opinionated notion that private sector radio interests hotly disputed the FM policy is very much a matter of record in a decade long debate in the pages of the in-industry media publication the Broadcaster. Again, that will be properly cited tomorrow. Much of what appears to be "opinion" to cite the critic [above] is based on the 1996 thesis completed by Gene Costain [a former two year anchor at the CKO network] at York University. Once again, that will be cited tommorow. One quote on the FM policy supposedly moving Canadian radio toward a new "musical chord structure" was uttered by two people, first Harry Boyle [the former CRTC Chair, and also by Sjef Frenken, a former Chief of Radio for the CRTC], the latter was also partially responsible for writing the FM policy. Again, all of these long interview sources are mentioned in Costain's thesis (1996), which will be properly citated tomorrow. Finally, the argument that the "real story" behind the CKO radio network was the FM policy, which animated CKO and led to it's creation, also arises out of the research and conclusions of Costain (1996), which will be added tommorow. Also, in the second paragraph, it is common knowledge that the CKO bid was handled by several connected Liberals clearly associated with the federal government of the day...names added tommorow.

Forgive the crossing of Wikipedia boundaries or rules, but all of the material can and will be supported with citaitons tommorow--where necessary.

Welcome to Wikipedia - please take some time to review some key Wikipedia policies such as Verifiability and Neutral Point of View (also see Wikipedia:NPOV tutorial). The proposed citations will be welcome (see WP's Citation policy) and there's no immediate deadline for adding these. Changes can generally be made to WP articles at any time by any contributor. Also please note most WP readers are not Canadian, and many will not be familiar with Canadian broadcasting policy, therefore the need for verifiability here. Dl2000 11:51, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arkansas[edit]

This reference appeared in the London Free Press newspaper on July 2, 1977, in an article about the start-up with problems, including the hour delay at Ottawa.

Paraphrase of the article (which I may still have somewhere at home) - "One announcer mis-pronounced the name of the state Arkansas" x number of "times." A station manager was quoted as saying, "I don't think he's with us any more."

"I don't think" is the reason why I wrote "reputedly" dismissed. GBC 23:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to help[edit]

I managed to do a bit of tweaking in the article but there isn't much else I can do. I have my limitations as to what I know and what's sitting in front of me. MapleLeafFan04 14:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was one of the Originals at CKO Toronto in 1977. I joined on August 2 or 3, and I remained until I left (a year after Stan Stewart, the then-president, fired Tayler Parnaby. He became News Director at CFRB and hired me a year later. I left CFRB and moved to Florida in 1992. I was on the air for the shooting of Pope John Paul II and anchored the Tory convention that saw Brian Mulroney crowned leader. Several names are missing from this article, including Ian Brownlee, who joined from CKEY after Parnaby came aboard in 1986, Pamela Kern, Howard English, and many others. If anyone wants a discussion about CKO, I'd be happy to join it. Names or others were Dawna Aprile, Georgie Binks, John MacGillivary (ck. spelling) and many others, including Robert Holliday, DErin Davis, John Anderson and many others. This article is incomplete to say the least. (Allan Richards, August 6, 2008) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.18.207.30 (talk) 17:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Tevan[edit]

The bit about Ted Tevan strikes me as a little far-fetched. Tevan had a reasonably popular afternoon/evening sports call-in on CFOX in the 1970s. Given that CKO's Montreal outlet operated from ... wait for it ... the CFOX studios (above the Hymus Tavern on Hymus Blvd in Pointe Claire), I don't see how they didn't have a suitable studio. That said, the article gives a 1989 date for that event, so maybe they'd moved? It was certainly still in the CFOX studios in 1979 when I worked there. --plaws (talk) 00:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]