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Mr,penguin[edit]

where is the source for Mr.penguin from my gathering there is no Mr.penguin some person just decided to do some unfounded sources

penguin books does not seem to be owned by any Mr.penguin nor has it been in the past

please corret this as its just another example of wikipedia articles written by 10 year olds —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.231.66 (talk) 05:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And it doesn't look like you're going to get the Nobel Prize for Literature any time soon, either.
There IS a Mr Penguin, and Mr Pelican, and a Mr Puffin, and they all publish books. There is a Mr. Pigeon too, but he is not so well-known as the books he deals with are the "pigeon poo" ones. Myles325a (talk) 06:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Open Message to Bob[edit]

Dear Bob, I have been reading your stuff since the days of Nation Review, and I believe you to be one of the best writers and orators in Australia, if not the Western World. As an Australian, I am absolutely ashamed that every piece ot trivia from America, but Britain as well, receives a fulsome and comprehensive treatment in Wikipedia, and yet for most Australian subjects, even ones of great importance, there is hardly anything. If you look at my remarks on Old Tom (the Two Fold Bay whale) you will see what I mean. Even New Zealand has more respect and interest in its writers, artists, and its history than we do.

I think that you deserve a better page than the thumbnail dipped in tar that we have here. Why are there so few photographs of noted Australians? Send some in, please, and put in a bit of biography. It would help sell books too. I don't know if you read WP, but if you don't, then perhaps someone you know who does will give you a heads-up. Maybe they will send stuff in, not just on you, but on the many Australians who get less treatment here than someone's pet turtle in the U.S.A. Of course, Australians are going to be apathetic about their own culture when they see that Wikipedia's treatment of Australian people and subjects is about the slackest in the world, meriting half a page of badly written bumbfluff. Why doesn't the arts community get together and put some stuff down on paper, and send it in. (By the way, have a look at the treatment here of Ginger Meggs The most widely-known cartoon in Australia, which features on a stamp, is given a write-up that is far shorter and far shoddier than literally HUNDREDS of American cartoons and cartoonists. And, once again, there are no excerpts from the cartoons).

I have an idea that school children could be asked to write on some subject, beginning, say, with their own school, or town, or some noteworthy local, and that the best of these would be submitted to WP under that child's name. This competition would encourage kids to write meaningful and useful material, and that material would assist with promoting the fact that OUR writers and artists are not second rate nobodies. What do you think? Myles325a (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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This doesn't quote sources and it doesn't even mention the Costello and Abbott defamation case.--Grahamec 09:04, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Ellis's Education[edit]

The article, and the ABC Q&A profile, says Ellis attended Sydney University on a Sir Robert Menzies scholarship. This is probably a reference to the Commonwealth Scholarship scheme, set up by the Menzies government, under which most students who received a reasonable pass in the end of school Leaving Certificate exams could get a scholarship that paid university fees. Ellis did not in fact get one of these scholarships and instead went to university on a teachers' college scholarship which paid fees and a living allowance. A condition of the scholarship was that, on graduating, the student had to work as a school teacher for several years, usually in a country town. As many did, Ellis instead paid what was called a "bond" of several thousand pounds to be released from the obligation to teach. The source on the incorrect refererence to the Menzies scholarship was probably this interview Ellis corrected the story in his blog which, unfortunately, has been taken down, though it is probably archived somewhere. I'm setting this out on the talk page because I don't want to change the article without a source. Not a huge point, but it's a pity when errors become part of history. Perhaps the Ellis family or a friend has a source? wycombe (talk) 01:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)wycombe[reply]

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Girl from Kiev[edit]

"The Girl from Kiev about two 40-year-old divorced lawyers travelling near Chernobyl falling for a Russian girl"

Is this correct? Kiev is a Ukrainian city.

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