Talk:Black Mouth Cur

This article is absolutely terrible

Please rewrite the whole thing or drink me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.212.163 (talk) 03:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

What specifically needs to be changed? Chrisrus (talk) 19:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Why is the title two words?

Why is the title "Black Mouth Cur" (with a space), whereas the dog is always called a "Blackmouth Cur" in the article? Is there a good reason for this? Which is better? Shouldn't the title at least be consistent with the article? Dave Runger^(t)⁄_(c) 10:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I have moved the article to its current location at "Blackmouth Cur". Dave Runger^(t)⁄_(c) 05:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

 Done

And I've just moved it back, after an IP editor changed the spelling back. The overwhelming majority of sources seem to use the spelling "Black Mouth Cur". --McGeddon (talk) 15:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

No citation for the Old Yeller connection

On what authority is this animal claimed as the probable breed of the "Old Yeller" dog? It seems to me that it is more likely it was a Carolina Dog, which was also called a Yeller Dog. It would seem like the obvious candidate.Chrisrus (talk) 05:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm about to remove the section about Old Yeller, and I'll tell you why:

• It's been a long time since I talked about this, and no one seems to have any proof that the author intended "Old Yeller" to have been a Blackmouth Cur.

• The author himself uses the word "mongel", a word which by far my best dog reference book says originally was used and still today is used in English for any dog which was not the product of artificial selection, but simply naturally selected either free-ranging dog or a dog that was supposed to be bred but an outside dog hopped the fence or something and the puppies were an accident and a problem for the breeder. The Blackmouth Cur may not have been a recognized breed, but they are the result of very intentional purpose breeding to make them specifically good at certain things and highly unlikely to be referred to as a "mongrel" by a southern writer who knew the first thing about them.

• It seems to me at least far more probable that it was literally a Yeller Dog, a dog only known to science in my lifetime but long long known in the South as a specific type of feral dog that has lived forever basically in southeast North America. This would explain the "just nothing but a yaller dog" attitude the society has toward the dog in the book, a dog of which nothing great was expected. This is not the southern attitude toward a blackmouth cur.

• Also, the arguement being made, that the dog described in the book shared characteristics with the Blackmouth Cur, seems just to something that came out of the culture through some wikipedian and no evidence or proof that can be cited so even if true it's not citable or someone would have cited it by now.

• I also want to say that those characteristics might be those of a Yeller Dog or any number of other dogs.

• Many dogs born out of many generations of feral dogs bond very closely to one person and exhibit submissive loyalty to that one person but can't bond to another past a certain age, kinda like Old Yeller. See Fido (dog) or The yellow dog of Lao Pan, for example. Highly bred hunting dogs like curs are more likely to want to lead their owners on a chase or leave them behind than to follow their master slavishly around afraid to let them out of their sight. Old Yeller was much more loyal in this particular way than a highly bred hunting cur like this, who, if allowed, would probably take off for hours on end romping through the woods hunting before heading home for free food and shelter and some time with the master.

• So those are some reasons why I'm about to remove the bit about Old Yeller. I mean no offense to the author of this what they probably had as understood common "knowledge" that turns out not to be fact. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia and happy editing. Chrisrus (talk) 20:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done

Other Names Question

Same names in the 'other names' section seem to be kennel names, not alternative names for the breed, thoughts? (SybilleY (talk) 15:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC))

edit: Reading more through this article, it really seems to need a thorough clean up as color varieties, bloodlines established by different breeders etc all got muddled up. Anybody offended if I take this article 'under my wings' and try to get it up to standard? (SybilleY (talk) 20:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC))

No hay de que ask such a question! Go for it! Chrisrus (talk) 22:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

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Found out today what my dog is.

This website was very helpful in identifying my dog.. 2600:100E:BF18:FD0:64B1:A49C:38AA:1F1D (talk) 06:46, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Weird distinction of gender

if the article is about a dog, why call the male sex just "dogs" in the weight category and the females "bitches"? very out of date and the distinction doesnt make sense. i know the definition of the word bitch in that context but it just seems purposeful and unnecessary 24.45.145.182 (talk) 01:22, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Reference formatting

I managed to screw up the citation formatting. Sorry.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

For your future reference. Primefac (talk) 14:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)