A fact from Bill Mullahey appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 October 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Pan Am executive Bill Mullahey was nicknamed "Mr. Pacific" for his work promoting tourism to Hawaiʻi and other island destinations?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Created by Tcr25 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:15, 19 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]
The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are directly cited. The only issue is that Lulu.com is an unreliable self-publisher. SL93 (talk) 03:38, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, SL93. Yeah, I would have preferred a different source, but, applying WP:USINGSPS, I believe Legendary Surfers passes the acceptability test. Gault-Williams is an established writer for surfing magazines and has co-authored a RS-published biography of early surfer Tom Blake, written a documentary on surf photographer Doc Ball, and has been cited in academic literature. The point the citation is being used for is actually in a quote from a long out-of-print book that I can't locate to confirm the details, but spotchecking other citations in the book indicate that it's faithful to the original sources. Three options:
Drop the sentence.
Bypass Legendary Surfers and cite the original book quoted (Blake, Tom (1983) [1935]. Hawaiian Surfriders, 1935. Redondo Beach, California: Mountain & Sea Publishing. p. 69.)
Accept the self-published source as from an expert in the field
Fourth option, which I just implemented on the page, leave the self-published source, but note that it's quoting the RS-published source and include that in the reference, too.
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The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are directly cited. The only issue is that Lulu.com is an unreliable self-publisher. SL93 (talk) 03:38, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
