Talk:Atlético Madrid/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Resolute 23:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

It is a decent article overall, but I am failing over the lack of citations and references in the vast majority of the article. There is also an existing template questioning whether parts of the article is original research. Both of these will have to be addressed before this article can be considered for GA.

Specific to the article, however:

  • In the first section of club history, you state that the team was founded in 1939. Then you state that the team was founded in 1903. The rest of this section and the following makes the first statement unnecessary. Just start with the 1903 founding
  • The entire first paragraph focuses on their early uniforms. This would be better suited to the uniforms section, no?
  • Avoid overlinking. i.e.: Spanish Civil War and Real Oviedo are each linked twice in close succession while Real Madrid and Athletic Bilbao are linked multiple times throughout.
  • English and Spanish are being mixed in some places. i.e.: Atlético Bilbao and Athletic Bilbao. Pick one and be consistent.
  • "With the sudden removal of Gil's strong presence, the club was in complete disarray and results on the pitch clearly reflected that." - This statment needs clarification. At present, it reads like the writer's opinion
  • Again, overlinking of Segunda División and La Liga
  • "Quique Sánchez Flores Revolutionizes Team" I don't like this section header. It's POV. Moreover, how can he "drastically change" the team's fortunes when the previous section describes how Atletico was already on an upswing? He didn't change their fortunes, he continued their progression.
  • I dislike the "Notable coaches" title, it sounds POV. Just call it "Coaches" and make sure that either all coaches are linked, or that recent coaches are linked with a pointer to a child article listing all coaches in the team's history.
  • I don't understand why there is a near complete list of coaches while there is nothing for players but the bare roster. Does Atletico have any kind of team hall of fame? If so, it would be a nice lead into an article link for List of Atlético Madrid players
  • Under "Recent History", is there a child article with the full history that could be used as a hat note for this section? Also, explain the colour coding. Not every reader will understand that pink means relegated and green promoted.
  • Ref 10 is dead, and ref 17 needs to be expanded to a similar format as the rest.
  • Commons has a pretty good collection of related images that can be used throughout this article: commons:Category:Atlético de Madrid

I hope this helps to improve the article so that when you bring it back to GAN, it can pass easier. Cheers! Resolute 23:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]