Talk:Anti-Jewish boycotts

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Many wrong or unsourced claims in the article[edit]

I will give you only one:

In Poland, the antisemitic magazine Rola campaigned for Jewish businesses to be boycotted from 1885.[1]


For starters, there was no Poland in 1883 there, only Russia, with Polish and Jewish minorities. The reffed article writes about "the political scene in the Kingdom of Poland" which is also ahistorical nonsense, see the Kingdom of Poland entry to learn when it had disappeared.

Presently this article gives no statistics on the percentage of Jews in the nations, the population and economic trends, or their role in the government and elites in the countries where they were subsequently boycotted - see this article for some data. It should thus be rewritten to make it more encyclopedic, free from non-sourced false or POV claims. Zezen (talk) 09:13, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For the time being, I have inserted many [citation needed]s to alert about un-sourced claims. One may also double-check in e.g. Book History, Volume 6 which says "[After 1917] work in both Yiddish in Hebrew proliferated instantly" to verify statements such as

"No Hebrew Bible has been published for Jews since 1917. (Nor has a Russian translation of the Jewish version of the Old Testament been allowed.) The study of Hebrew has been outlawed, even for religious purposes. Not a single Jewish religious book of any other kind has appeared in print since the early 1920s."

in the few properly reffed claims in the current version of this article. Zezen (talk) 10:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is an exceedingly poor article. One should also consider what the scope of the article should be. The lead does not define "boycott" but links to boycott which gives a definition that definitely does not apply to legislation. On the face of it, anti-Jewish legislation does not belong here at all. Zerotalk 01:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for confirming my low opinion about it. I see that one missing source has been provided (thank you, Zumoarirodoka!, which I have further tweaked up now. I leave this article to other editors then, as fully checking and reediting it would take too much time of my time. Zezen (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Moszyński, Maciej. ""A quarter of a century of struggle" of the Rola Weekly. "The great alliance" against the Jews". Fondazione Centro di Documentazione Ebraica Contemporanea. Retrieved 7 February 2014. {{cite web}}: C1 control character in |title= at position 37 (help)

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Statement on the BDS movement being called anti-Semitic needs fixing[edit]

At the end of the article it states:

In the 2000s, the BDS movement, which advocates for a total boycott of Israeli products, was regarded by some Jewish civil rights organizations (such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center), as well as pro-Israel organizations and scholars as driven by antisemitism.

The above statement has many problems, First, The BDS movement has progressed beyond the 2000's and it continues to be regarded by some civil rights organizations as driven by antisemitism, so the "was" needs to be "is". Second, while the original BDS movement did indeed support the boycott of ALL Israeli products, some modern notable figures who identify as supporters of BDS advocate for a more targeted boycott such as of the Israeli settlements rather a total boycott. Third, I would make a clearer distinction between the original BDS movement and the modern international BDS movement that currently is active, as there are notable figures who self-identify as BDS supporters but who have a different idea of how the boycott should work in terms of scope. Fourth, there needs to something mention about the rebuttals given by some notable critics of the BDS (in any form) is antisemitism argument including by some self-identified supporters of BDS. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 11:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed was to is. BDS generally advocates for boycott of Israel. There are other boycott initiatives that are more limited in scope (e.g. to settlements per various definitions) - but they aren't BDS. Rebuttals on the "I'm not an antisemite" vein have little value.Icewhiz (talk) 12:41, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weasel words and hasbara, non-encyclopedic content.[edit]

"In the 2000s, the BDS movement, which advocates for a total boycott of Israeli products, is regarded by some Jewish civil rights organizations (such as the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center), as well as pro-Israel organizations and scholars as driven by antisemitism.[24][25][26]"

The above is an absurd falsification - BDS is a human rights organisation. The people who support it are of the same moral character as those who risked themselves to hide Jewish people in Europe during World War Two.

It is racist to accuse non-Jewish people of anti-semitism when they are critical of Israel. Wikipedia delegitimises itself by allowing its content to be hijacked by Hasbara in this way. ¬¬¬¬