Talk:Anna Thomson

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Vandalism[edit]

I am not sure exactly what is going on here. Having supplied the references sought, another editor has immediately reverted all my many hours of careful and painstaking work. Please do not vandalise my edits. This article is still a stub. I have supplied the necessary references in English, French and German. 121.222.177.134 (talk) 00:05, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your references do not support your claims. There is nothing about abandonment or adoption in any of your references. You are adding unsupported information.- McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 00:07, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If I might offer my two cents here... The references in English and German prove nothing except that she is the daughter of Herbert and Beth Levine. None of them mention Anna being abandoned in New York, or her having been adopted. The French source, as found in "External Links", however, looks like it might offer support for the claims. The description of the video, when passed through a machine translator, says "...Orphan, is adopted by a rich couple and will live between France and the United States." I am uncertain as to whether is talking about Anna or about her character in the film, though. Perhaps someone who speaks French could watch the video and weigh in? – Majora4 (leave a message) 00:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The French text at the video is perfectly clear: it refers to the actress, Anna Thomson aka Anna Levine, not to the character she plays in 'Bridget'. Why else would the French synopsis refer to her (Anna not 'Bridget') meeting Christopher Walken, who is a real life person not a character in the film? (Check out the cast of the film at IMDB or at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_%28Film%29. There's no one called Christopher Walken in it). The French interview is clear. Anna was orphaned at a young age and brought up by a rich couple, Herbert and Beth Levine. 121.222.177.134 (talk) 00:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I incorporated the text from the Dutch Wikipedia entry at http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Levine. This is just one of the six foreign language Wikipedia pages for the actress Anna Thomson. I had to start somewhere in order to start providing references as required in the warning message at the top of the page. I couldn't work out how to add the six other language pages in the lefthand column under the Languages entry on the English page. Perhaps you would be good enough to do so.121.222.177.134 (talk) 00:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at the Dutch page. The content there does not have any sources, which is the reason adding it here was a problem. I will see if I can find a Reliable source for the information. I encourage you to look as well, and re-add the content if you can find a source. – Majora4 (leave a message) 01:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Original deletion process[edit]

I have already posted this on the page of the editor who is determined to ensure that the entry for Anna Thomson stays deleted. But it occurs to me that I ought to post it here. According to the information on the Wikipedia deletion page for 'Anna Thomson (which I have copied and pasted here for your convenience) the entry was deleted on the grounds that Anna Thomson is a 'Non-notable minor performer; fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR'.

The deletion process was 'Proposed deletion (PROD)'. According to the Wikipedia entry for PROD, Proposed deletion (PROD) is a way to suggest an article for uncontroversial deletion. It is a shortcut to the normal deletion review process (AfD), and a fallback for deletion proposals that do not meet the strict criteria for speedy deletion.

Critically, according to the Wikipedia page, 'PROD must only be used if no opposition is to be expected'.

With all due respect, PROD should not have been used in this instance because opposition was to be expected here. This is for the reasons that I outline below:

1. The first and most important reason why opposition should have been expected is that, as I write, there are six foreign-language Wikipedia pages for Anna Thomson (born Anna Kluger Levine on 18 September 1953 in New York City) ) aka Anna Levine, aka Anna Levine Thomson, aka Anna Thomson, aka Anna Thompson, aka Anna Levine Thompson.

In alphabetical order, the six foreign-language Wikipedia pages for Anna Thomson are in: Czech; Italian; Dutch; French; German, Spanish.

2. The second reason why opposition should have been expected is that there is an ' Interview biographie d'Anna Thomson' ('Interview biography of Anna Thomson') on INA at http://www.ina.fr/video/I08260832. Here, on 27 April 2002, Thomson was interviewed by Thierry Ardisson about her role in Bridget (2001).

3. The third reason why opposition should have been expected is that there is a Facebook fan page for Anna Thomson at https://www.facebook.com/anna.thomson.fanpage

4. The fourth reason why opposition should have been expected is that there is an IMDB page for Anna Thomson under her name of Anna Levine at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0505764/

5. The fifth reason why opposition should have been expected is that Anna Thomson, who is 61 years old and still working as an actress, has fifty nine (59) credits to her name on her IMDB page (see above) dating from 1969 to 2012.

6. The sixth reason why opposition should have been expected is that, according to her IMDB entry, Anna Thomson 'Gained cult status among French movie experts due to her performance in Sue (1997)'. Sue (1997), was the first film in a 'Trilogy of Loneliness', all set in New York, starring Anna Thomson, directed by Amos Kollek. The second in the trilogy was 'Fiona' (1999). The third in the trilogy was Bridget (2002) (see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_(Film) ). Also see http://www.planet-interview.de/interviews/amos-kollek/34007/

7. The seventh reason why opposition should have been expected is that Anna Thomson had a substantial role as 'Alexandra "Alex" Arnold' in Jaded (1996). Notable about the English Wikipedia page for 'Jaded' (at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaded_(film) ) is that out of the eleven actors listed in the Principal Cast, only Anna Levine (Anna Thomson) does not have a current entry.

8. The eighth reason why opposition should have been expected is that Anna Thomson starred in 'Fast Food Fast Women' (2000) directed by Amos Kollek, and entered into the 2001 Festival de Cannes (Cannes Film Festival). See: a) http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/201743/Fast-Food-Fast-Women/overview b) http://www.nytimes.com/movies/person/97053/Amos-Kollek c) http://www.festival-cannes.com/en/archives/ficheFilm/id/5168/year/2000.html

9. The ninth reason why opposition should have been expected is that Anna Thomson starred as herself in 'A Bitter Glory' (2001), a documentary directed by Amos Kollek, produced by Arte France. The film is also known as 'Bitterer Ruhm'. It was filmed in New York and released on 11 December 2001 in France and in Germany.

10. The tenth reason why opposition should have been expected is that Anna Thomson had roles in two Clint Eastwood films, the character of 'Audrey' in 'Bird' (1988), and that of 'Delilah Fitzgerald' in 'Unforgiven' (1992). Thomson's role as 'Delilah Fitzgerald' was substantial, and played a key part in the development of the film's remarkable, haunting and unforgettable pathos.

I have taken some time to put together the ten reasons above in order to make clear to you my concern that this entry should not have been deleted using PROD. In my view, too many Wikipedia administrators are overzealous in their enthusiasm to delete Wikipedia pages on the grounds that the page fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. This is yet one more example of this. 121.222.177.134 (talk) 00:41, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]