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Moving the following here from Nectar (disambiguation), to preserve it. Perhaps this can be worked into the text of this article:

Nectar and ambrosia — the food of the gods in Greek mythology. It is believed that the two terms were not originally distinguished—though in Homer's poems and later works, nectar is the drink and ambrosia the food. On the other hand, in Alcman nectar is the food, and in Sappho and Anaxandrides ambrosia the drink. Each is used in Homer as an unguent (Iliad, xiv. 170; xix. 38). Both are fragrant, and maybe used as perfume. According to W. H. Röscher (Nektar und Ambrosia, 1883; see also his article in Röscher's 'Lexikon der Mythologie) nectar and ambrosia were originally only different forms of the same substance - honey, regarded as a dew, like manna, fallen from heaven, which was used both as food and drink. See also Ichor, mead. Nectar is also mentioned in Hindu mythology, specifically in the Upanishads and the Puranas.

Srleffler 23:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have incorporated the above information. Mycroft7 19:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trees of Mt. Olympus[edit]

I just reverted an edit by 68.83.121.8 (talk • contribs • page moves • block user • block log) who indicated "[Ambrosia] was grown on trees at the foot of Mount Olympus." The same IP previously added "It grows on trees" which was reverted as vandalism. The IP may host more than one person, but numerous warnings have been given to that IP address. Any suggestions about a citation or source for this information? --Hansnesse 21:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Appearance in Fiction[edit]

The word "ambrosia" is used to refer to drinks in various works of fiction, notably the recent Battlestar Galactica series. (Not sure if it appeared in the original 1978 series or not.) Perhaps this would be worth a mention? A new section perhaps, "Popular Culture", as seen in other articles... It also just occured to me that the Xena reference should probably be moved into such a section, though that is at least loosely based on the Greek myths from which it derives. -- Lurlock 02:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know who "Rennon" is, but I hope you'll forgive me for deleting his poetry. Unfortunately, despite the fact that many people, including myself, enjoy poetry, an encyclopedia is not the place for poetry. A bathroom wall is. Or a blog. Or anywhere else besides here.

Seeing as the use of "ambrosia" in Battlestar Galactica and other media is included, it seems appropriate that the use in Xena: Warrior Princess be included, where ambrosia refered to the "food of the gods", which would turn a mortal into a god if they consumed it.

Rennon is a popular Street Poet in San Francisco. Perhaps he deserves his own Wikipedia page. His work will be featured in the upcoming "Face Down!" art and poetry from the streets of the bay area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.43.50.234 (talk) 18:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ambrosia is also a key element to the computer game Deus Ex. It is the vaccine to the pandemic known as the "Gray Death" and it is controlled only by Majestic 12. I believe it is also included in the disambiguation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.72.105.142 (talk) 02:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

popular culture[edit]

I have restored the popular culture section. I added another link to the disambiguation page, which hopefully will clarify the scope of the section, which is depictions of the actual subject of the article (the mythological substance), and not merely other things named after it. Hopefully this will address IPSOS's complaint of, "remove unnecessary trivia, belong is article about subject referenced" in the edit summary of his removal of the section initially. It is, perhaps, somewhat trivial, but in line with other similar articles, such as Aphrodite. Mycroft7 23:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of ἀμβροσία in Greek[edit]

According to Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, the literal meaning of ἀμβροσία is "immortality", see LSJ, s.v. ἀμβροσί-α and untill recently this meaning was indicated in the first senetence of the lead. However Steliokardam (talk · contribs) wants to replace "immortality" with "[h]aom[a]-sustenance", (see these edits. It's unclear what exactly "[h]aom[a]-sustenance" is supposed to mean, is it supposed to be a literal meaning? Or perhaps a proposed etymology? In any case no source is given in support. And unless one is provided we will need revert to the previously sourced version of the article. Paul August ☎ 17:58, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ambrosia as "immortality", is nothing but a case of false etymology, in a circulus·in·probando logic! Enquire elsewhere, if really interested. Steliokardam (talk) 18:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Steliokardam: Be that as it may, unless you can supply a source for your proposed alternative of "[h]aom[a]-sustenance", that will have to be removed. Paul August ☎ 18:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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