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topps rookie card[edit]

Was this ever proven to be a marketing ploy by topps, because it seems unlikely they would accidentally release these cards.--204.77.52.225 (talk) 17:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk · contribs) 23:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Criteria[edit]

1. Prose

  • "all after the move from third base"-I think it would make more sense as "all after the move to the outfield"
    • Done
  • While I personally don't mind parentheses, I think you have enough info in the sentence about his father and brother that you don't need them.
    • Turned the paranthetical statement into its own sentence
  • Italicize Baseball America
    • Italicized in all instances
  • For the American Legion section, maybe specify, "During his teen years, Gordon played American Legion Baseball. He won the organization's Graduate of the Year Award in 2015.
    • Done
  • Spell out what ABCA stands for and link it.
    • Done
  • Link runs scored in the U.S. National Team section
    • Done
  • Specify when he switched his uniform number (before the 2008 season, I'm assuming).
    • Done
  • Spell out RBIs on the first mention (good job linking it)
    • Done
  • Link United States national baseball team
    • Done
  • Link minor league baseball
    • Done
  • Link Double-A
    • Done
  • Texas League is a duplink in the 2006 paragraph
    • Removed excess links
  • Change the last sentence of the draft and minors paragraph to, " By midseason, Gordon was receiving accolades for being one of the best hitting prospects in baseball. He participated in the Texas League All-Star game and was selected for the 2006 All-Star Futures Game.
    • Done
  • Merge the paragraphs and change the first sentence of the second one to, "Declining to play for Team USA in 2006, Gordon led the Wranglers to the Texas League playoffs." Then, specify that his additional honors came after the season.
    • Done
  • Second paragraph of the third base section is redundant. Move the "despite..." clause with the stats to the beginning of the sentence, and leave out the first "despite..." clause.
    • Done
  • change 8 RBI to eight RBI. I think Wikipedia prefers numbers under 10 to be spelled out, numbers 10 and up to be written as integers
    • Done
  • Change "Major League Baseball's Opening Day of 2008" to "Opening Day, 2008." Also, link opening day on its first mention.
    • Done
  • "Most errors"-link to errors
    • Done
  • "all AL third basemen in 2008"-change AL to American League (AL)
    • Done
  • "in the beginning"-change to "at the beginning"
    • Done
  • "against Tampa Bay"-spell out and link Tampa Bay Rays
    • Done
  • stole home-link to stolen base
    • Done
  • Triple-A Omaha-link Triple-A and spell out Omaha Royals
    • Done
  • "against the Rays becoming"-add a comma between Rays and becoming
    • Done
  • Link Spring Training in 2011, unless you mention it earlier after revisions. Also, either write spring training or Spring Training, but be consistent.
    • Linked, and changed all to the capitalized variant
  • See if you can tie in how leading the majors in spring training in 2011 reflected on his season-was it a predictor of his future performance, or did he fail to live up to that showing once the season started? Also, the reference is showing 2019 stats, not 2011 spring training.
    • I've fixed the ref. When I went through improving the article, I left some of the prose as it was, so parts of this article are very old. I'd thought I'd checked all the refs, but apparently not. That one had an access date in 2011. I've also added a ref and a statement stating that his success carried over into the regular season.
  • Change Rawlings Gold Glove in 2012 to Gold Glove Award for consistency
    • Done
  • Whenever you use the term All-Star, have a - between All and Star
    • Done
  • Link assists in 2011
    • Done
  • Link triple on first mention in 2013.
    • Done
  • Link singled in 2014
    • Done
  • Obviously the Royals made the playoffs in 2014, but I think you should still explicitly mention that in the text. Same for 2015.
    • Done
  • American League Championship Series - since you've already mentioned the AL, you can change to AL Championship Series.
    • Done
  • End the first World Series sentence at left center, then start the next "He reached...", then take out "However, he" and change to "but", connecting that to the next sentence.
    • Done
  • Specify that July 8 was in 2015, and unlink Tampa Bay Rays, since now you are linking it earlier in the article
    • Done
  • 2015 is your first use of the // format for the stats. So uneducated readers will understand what that is, put .271 average/.377 on-base percentage/.432 slugging percentage. Then, it should be fine as-is later on.
    • Done
  • Also, instead of "hitting .271 average/.377 on-base percentage/.432 slugging percentage", change to "he had a .271 average/.377 on-base percentage/.432 slugging percentage"
    • Went with a slightly different wording. How does that look?
  • Move the 2015 playoff stats to after talking about how the Royals won the World Series (though you can put them before the mention of the World Series parade)
    • Also combined the two paragraphs
  • Link hit by pitch in 2017 and perhaps see if you can find out why he gets hit by so many. There might not be coverage of his reason, but I know Marlon Byrd (who got hit a lot) has said he doesn't get out of the way.
    • Done, and added
  • "Gordon was inducted into the Athletics Hall of Fame of the high school he had attended, Lincoln Southeast" - this is picky on my end, but make less clunky by saying, "Lincoln Southeast High School inducted Gordon into their Athletics Hall of Fame." People should remember from earlier in the article that this is where he went, so no need to specify again.
    • Went with "Gordon was inducted into the Lincoln Southeast High School Athletics Hall of Fame"
  • Capitalize Gold Glove in 2019
    • Done
  • For the baseball card section, change it to say that his baseball card gained notoriety shortly after he was drafted in 2006. He was already notable from being a first round pick.
    • Done
  • "During his rookie year in the MLB" - change to "During his rookie year with the Royals"
    • Done
  • Italicize Topps on each mention
    • Done
  • I think the awards section is short enough, it would make more sense to move the honors to the appropriate chronological sections.
    • Done. A few named refs got orphaned in the process, but User:AnomieBOT should get that cleaned up in the next hour or so.

2. Verifiability

3. Depth of Coverage

  • Put the year he made his debut in the lead
    • Done
  • Mention in the lead that he was sent to the minor leagues for an extended period of time in 2010, and put right after it something about his play improving the next season (I know you cover this later in the lead, but it seems like those facts should be right next to each other)
    • Done
  • Put that the free agent contract after the 2015 World Series was for four years
    • Done
  • He grew up in Nebraska-was he a Royals fan growing up?
    • Not sure. I found an interview talking about him and his Nebraska roots, but it wasn't addressed. I'll look some more
      • Found and added
  • Maybe work in that he majored in criminal justice at Nebraska
    • Added
  • Did Gordon have any competition to make the roster in 2007? Was he expected to begin the season in the minors? See if you can find this out.
    • According to ESPN, he was put on the "fast track" to the majors, so I added that.
  • Put who the first hit came against.
    • Added
  • Specify how Gordon performed better the rest of the 2007 season with some stats. Move the September highlights to before he broke his nose.
    • Done
  • Was the injury in 2008 season-ending, or did he come off the DL during the year?
    • Added
  • How did he do in September of 2009?
    • Done
  • Give some stats before his 2010 demotion, perhaps a comment from the manager if you can find one. I seem to remember that being a kind of big deal.
    • Added some stats, and added a quote from a coach. It's moderately difficult to find online sources for some of these early-career information, as a lot of the pages don't exist anymore.
  • Tell how he did after getting called up again in 2010?
    • Done
  • Perhaps you could add more info on Gordon's 2011 season. It was really a breakout year for him, so there should be some coverage of it. Maybe note that he finally started to fulfil his potential as a first-round draft pick.
    • Done
  • Give more stats for 2011, and change the last paragraph of the section to start, "Defensively, he..."
    • Done
  • Coverage of 2012 seems scant, too. There are three lines about him signing a contract, and only two about his season.
    • Done
  • 2013 could use some expansion, too.
    • Expanded
  • Put some more info on why he won the Hutch Award. Also, I think he got it in 2014, not 2015.
    • Clarified. He won the Hutch Award for 2014 events, but it was officially awarded to him in early 2015. I see where I tripped up. Also improved the ref formatting too.
  • Maybe put how Gordon's 2015 season was going before he got hurt.
    • Done
  • He homered in the 2015 ALDS against Houston-mention that.
    • Added
  • More info on his 2018 season.
    • I inserted his season highs in hits and RBIs, as well as being inducted into his high school's Hall of Fame that year. I can expand more if needed, but there's not a whole lot to write about for 2018.
  • Maybe a highlight or two from his 2019 season - he enjoyed a pretty good year.
    • Added a couple highlights

4. Neutral

5. Stable

6. Illustrations

7. Miscellaneous

Comments[edit]

7. Several of the references don't have a date. Could you add a date for all dated articles?

    • I think I've got them all now, if I missed one, point it out and I'll go back and fix it.
  • For ref 3, put the author (if there is one), the title of the article cited, and call the Toledo Blade the work in the template.
    • I was having trouble getting the archive to work. After examination, the reference at the end of the sentence contains the relevant info for the entire sentence, so I removed that reference entirely.
  • For the Huskers.com references, put Huskers.com before the Archive information, and please put an accessdate.
    • Done
  • Refs 11, 12, and 13-please put the author info.
    • Done
  • Ref 25 seems to be dead.
    • Replaced
  • ref 51 needs more info (author, if there is one-publisher-date)
    • Done
  • ref 57 is dead.
    • Ref 57 in the version of the page you would have seen is archived.
  • For ref 60, fangraphs doesn't need to be blue-linked (or, if you keep it in the title, list it as the publisher as well).
    • Removed from title and made publisher

These citations are such a mess - I'm the author of over 40% of the article, but the rest of the text is almost 10 years old, and the references are done in obsolete templates that are gonna need replaced in several places.

  • Haha, I understand. You'd think an article that already had a lot written would be easier than one you basically start from scratch, but this can be a challenge!
  • Make sure the sources from the same websites (baseball-reference, kansascity.com) are formatted the same way. For instance, some of the Kansas City Star ones list the publisher as Kansas City Star, others list it as kansascity.com. I don't care which one you use, but make sure you use the same styling each time you do it (looks nicer).
    • I think I got all of these, tell me if I missed one.
  • In the case of MLB's website or the Royals website, Kansas City Royals is fine as the publisher, but do it the same way each time. If the article is just from MLB.com (not the Royals' website, specifically), then have Major League Baseball as the publisher.
    • I think I got all these - There also turned out to be a Seattle Mariners and a San Diego Padres in there. Tell me if I missed one.

I might be a little busy this weekend, but I'll try to keep looking at this when I have a chance! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 23:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for taking this on. I worked on this one about a month and a half after I started editing on Wikipedia, so it's probably a tad rough. I'm going to be a bit busy, too. I'll work on stuff as I can. Hog Farm (talk) 00:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Sanfranciscogiants17: - I believe I've responded to everything so far. Anything you see that I missed or didn't quite get done like you wanted before you start your next round of comments? Hog Farm (talk) 00:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Next Round

  • Lead: Three sentences in a row start with "Gordon." While grammatically correct, I don't think the editors tend to like sentences all starting the same way. Varying the second should take care of it.
    • Done
  • You can take out "in MLB" after Wilson Defensive Player of the Year
    • Removed
  • Early life
  • Comma after "1984"
    • Added
  • "Gordon's father had played" - take out "had"
    • Removed
  • Add comma after Missouri
    • Added
  • Two sentences in a row start with Gordon; change one of them.
    • Done
  • College Career
  • I think you can combine the first two sentences. Note that he played third base for the baseball team, just to make it a little more clear.
    • Done
  • Add Award after Player of the Year
    • Done
  • Link ESPY Award
    • Done
  • put the s for (RBI)s inside the parentheses
    • Done
  • First Team All-Big 12 team - capitalize team, and maybe make more concise (All Big 12 First Team, though make sure that's a correct way to say it. If not, just capitalize Team).
    • Done
  • Change University of Nebraska in the early life section to University of Nebraska-Lincoln, then don't bother to link it in the college section.
    • Fixed
  • U.S. National Team
  • Add a comma after Taiwan
    • Added
  • Draft and minors
  • Instead of 1995 MLB Draft, put 1995 Major League Baseball (MLB) Draft, since this is the first mention of MLB in the prose
    • Done
  • spell out and link OPS
    • Done
  • Add award after Player of the Year. Player of the Year (without award) would be sufficient if you simply said he was named Player of the Year, but the way it's phrased here, I think Award is needed.
    • Done in both places
  • Add an s after Topps', I think (though honestly, I don't think I've ever gotten a good answer on whether you should or shouldn't in that case)
    • Done
  • Third Base: 2007-09
  • Add a comma after March 31)
    • Done
  • Later on, in the playoff appearances section, change 15-day disabled list (DL) to just disabled list
    • Done
  • Combine the paragraph about Gordon making the most errors with the preceding one and change the way its worded so you don't have two sentences starting with Gordon in a row.
    • Done
  • Mendy Lopez - in the special characters section at the top of the edit box, change the o to ó
    • Done.
  • Can you elaborate on why Gordon was optioned to Omaha on August 18 (manager quote, reporter analysis, etc.)?
    • Done
  • Change back to back games to back-to-back games
    • Done
  • Move to outfield
  • Move the last clause of the first sentence (following...) to the beginning. Sorry to be picky on this point, but I had a GA I did delisted because a lot of the sentences started the same way, so some editors are picky about that.
    • Done
  • More to come, and we're getting close! Once I finish going through the article this round, and you finish making the changes, it'll probably be at GA level. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 00:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the Royals' outfield, who was - change to In the Royals' outfield; DeJesus had been
    • Done
  • Give some season-ending stats for Gordon's 2010 season
    • Done
  • but Paul Konerko won the vote - "but Paul Konerko was elected", for variety
    • Done
  • Work the part about him tying for sixth in the AL in doubles into the same sentence about him having more doubles than any Royal since 2007
    • Done
  • Move "His success in Spring Training carried over" to after the part about him leading Spring Training in RBI. You can probably merge that last paragraph with the preceding one.
    • Done
  • Under that agreement - clarify it was the Royals' agreement
    • Done
  • Link plate appearances
    • Done
  • "becoming the third Royal player to sign an extension in the off season" - take out, not that relevant
    • Removed
  • Move the fielding awards paragraph to the end of the next paragraph about the 2012 season.
    • Done
  • 2013 - two sentences start with Gordon, change one of them.
    • Done
  • Then, two start with He. You could change the first of the Gordons to He, then change the last of the hes to Gordon
    • Done
  • Playoff appearances
  • 7-hit - should be seven-hit. I think Wikipedia prefers zero through nine to be spelled out, 10 and up as integers
    • Done
  • 2-for-3 is fine because of the dashes, don't bother to change
  • Mention that the Royals won the Division Series, then put a note about the Championship Series. If Gordon didn't do anything remarkable in the 2015 ALCS, just give some stats and move on.
    • Done
  • Later career
  • First two sentences start with on; vary one of them.
    • Done
  • "setting the Royals' franchise record, previously held by Mike Macfarlane" - change to "breaking Mike MacFarlane's franchise record"
    • Done
  • didn't - should be did not, unless in a quote. (I've been reprimanded for this before!)
    • Fixed
  • In the offseason before the 2018 season - Change to Before the 2018 season
    • Done
  • For 2019, have the first sentence simply say it was his best offensive season since 2015 (no stats). Move the stats to right before the part about him winning the Gold Glove.
    • Done
  • Two ons on the last paragraph; change one of the sentence's beginnings.
    • Done
  • References
  • Ref 36 has a problem with the date
    • Fixed
  • Some of the references have last, first format (Temple, Jesse); others have first last (Jesse Temple). Be consistent. I think more are last, first, so changing all to that probably is easiest.
    • Done
  • Change refs 6-8 to just Nebraska Huskers
    • Fixed
  • On ref 21, take out the italicized ESPN
    • Done
  • Ref 25 needs an accessdate
    • Done
  • Put the author for ref 26
    • Done
  • Unlink Major League Baseball in ref 33
    • Done
  • Change USA Today in ref 34 so it is not italicized
    • Done
  • Include a date for ref 36
    • Fixed, it was in there, but I'd typod a parameter
  • Take out Daily Pitch in ref 39
    • Done
  • Does ref 44 have an author?
    • It said "Sports Xchange", so I went ahead and added that
  • Fix date for ref 51 (and make it August 6, 2014, for consistency)
    • Fixed
  • Add an accessdate for ref 61
    • Done
  • de-italicize Kansas City Star for ref 72
    • Fixed
  • Add author for refs 81, 83, and 84
    • Done
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