Talk:Alan Mathews

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Prod tag "Never played for or managed a club in a fully professional league"?[edit]

This prod/NN tag is not correct on all counts. Mathews clearly passes WP:ATHLETE, as current manager for Cork City F.C. (a professional club in the top flight league of the Football Association of Ireland.) And as a player, Mathew's played with several of the league's premier division sides. Guliolopez (talk) 18:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually he clearly fails it. The Irish top division is not fully professional, which is what the criteria demands. Could you reinstate the prod please? пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per my note on my talkpage, I am at a loss to explain your tagging of this article. Mathews is currently the manager of a fully-professional club in a fully-professional league. (Cork City was one of the first clubs in Ireland to field a team of professional footballers in fact). That the CCFC players are 100% professional is clearly evident from the fact that recent issues meant they didn't get paid.[1] That in itself should be pretty self-evident of a meet on the "fully pro" criteria. But, even if it wasn't, WP:ATHLETE considers "highest amateur level" as a valid criteria also. Which Mathews also meets having managed and played with top-flight clubs in Ireland since the 1980s. Guliolopez (talk) 19:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a fully professional league - see this article. The amateur thing doesn't count, as football is not an amateur sport (the amaeteur thing is for things like poker or chess). пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In several AfDs, including this one, it's been established that the top league in Ireland is good enough. Nfitz (talk) 17:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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