Talk:Aaron Rowand/GA1

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Reviewer: Kncny11 (talk · contribs) 15:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

I was trying to figure out why this name sounded so familiar. Then I got to go to the Phillies game on the anniversary of the day he smashed his face in making a catch! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 15:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• Need citation for his height, weight, and middle name (MLB.com always has all of these)
• Mention in lede that, in addition to his other 2007 accomplishments, he was an All-Star
• "in the 2010 World Series" → "in 2010"

Early life and college career

• "According to his high school coach, Rowand hit .650 in high school" → "According to his high school coach, Rowand hit over .650 during his time at Glendora" or something to that effect to reduce the repetition of "high school"
• Link "the Titans" to Cal State Fullerton Titans baseball
• Pipe "exhibition contest" to exhibition game

Minor league career

• "He started his professional career in 1998" → "He started his professional career that season"
• Mention that the Warthogs were Class A-Advanced
• WL MLB.com
• WL National League and All-Star

Major league career

Chicago White Sox

• "Used sparingly initially" → "Although he was initially used sparingly" (the double adverb looks a little awkward)
• "centerfielder" (one word) is used a few times in this section, while "center fielder" (two words) is used elsewhere in the article
• delink Kansas City Royals in the 2002 section
• "2002-03 off season" → "2002–03 offseason"
• Comma after "2002–03 offseason"
• WL first instance of spring training
• Comma after "in both of Rowand's two-home-run games, said"
• Are only the stolen bases a career high? If so, I'd specify that

Philadelphia Phillies

• The start of this section seems abrupt as it is, maybe move the paragraph in the prior section beginning "After the season" down here?
• ""effort and determination."" → ""effort and determination"." per MOS:LQ
• "bleacherreport.com" → "Bleacher Report"
• "Thomas Harrigan of MLB.com listed it among the best ever in 2019" → "and, in 2019, Thomas Harrigan of MLB.com listed the catch as among the best ever" (or something to that effect)
• hyphen to en dash for "and the Phillies won 2–0"
• "Rowand suffered a broken nose and severe lacerations to his face as a result of the play/catch/whatever"
• He was set to become a free agent after the 2007 season, yes? That's how I'm reading it
• spell out the NLDS acronym in its first appearance scratch that, I'm working mostly backwards and saw ALDS spelled out earlier
• Also rip to Rowand signing with the Giants the year before the Phils took the World Series
  • They might not've if he'd stuck with the team; Victorino was really good! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

San Francisco Giants

• "five-year-$60-million" → "five-year, $60 million"
• delink Giants, mentioned earlier
• ""if guys have some good years."" → ""if guys have some good years"." per MOS:LQ
• en dash for "72–90 finish"
• fill out the NCLS acronym when it's first introduced scratch that, see above
• "relpaced" → "replaced" in the second paragraph of 2010

Personal life

• I don't see the birth dates for his kids listed on his MLB bio
  • You're right, thanks for noticing! I was having trouble finding the dates listed in any reliable source, so took out all info except what is given on mlb.com. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
• make spring training lowercase

References

• Twitter isn't a great source if there are alternatives, try this ESPN article
• Usually The New York Post is also not supposed to be used. However, I believe in nuance, and Kevin Kernan is a hugely accomplished baseball journalist, so his coverage falls under the "subject-matter experts" clause of these types of unreliable sources
  • Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I was going to say that Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources said the main concern was with the headlines, not the articles themselves, but consulting it now, it looks like the Post's reputation has suffered since the last time I checked. As you say, though, Kevin Kernan is a subject-matter expert. I'll keep this in mind for future articles. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
• Just like in the body, "bleacherreport.com" → "Bleacher Report"
• Some hyphens that should be en dashes in the ESPN sources: "12-10 slugfest" and "4-6 weeks"
• Chicago Sun-Times is listed as Chicago Sun-Times in [89] and The Chicago Sun Times in [93]; the WP page title suggests that the former is correct

General comments

• Broadness and focus are both good, gives a solid overview of his career
• Stability is good, pretty much one active editor
• Pictures all look solid
• Colossally nitpicky thing, but I was told during the Aaron Nola GA review that, per MOS, picture captions don't end in periods
  • I think the exact rule is they don't unless the caption is a complete sentence. These aren't, though, so I took all the periods out. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
• Largely free of editorializing, maybe a little with regards to the face-breaking catch, but sports journalists regularly refer to it as a great catch
• Earwig copyvio score looks great at 17.4%!

Sanfranciscogiants17, a smattering of minor things. As always, let me know if you have any questions! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 19:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Alright, I fixed a couple quick typos and this one is ready to go! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 15:17, 30 May 2021 (UTC)